[comp.sys.mac.apps] Nisus 3.0 upgrade

ir10@sdcc6.ucsd.edu (Donald R. Fredkin) (08/16/90)

We called Paragon Concepts Inc. yesterday to order an upgrade to Nisus
3.0. We learned that Paragon will not accept a Purchase Order from the
University of California unless "it has a check attached", which is
not what a purchase order is.

I guess that Nisus is targeted at the home user. But in that case,
they really should send out upgrade notices - I learned about the
release of Nisus 3.0 from MacWeek, which is not received by all home
users.

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jon@weber.ucsd.edu (Jon Matousek) (08/17/90)

>We called Paragon Concepts Inc. yesterday to order an upgrade to Nisus
>3.0. We learned that Paragon will not accept a Purchase Order from the
>University of California unless "it has a check attached", which is
>not what a purchase order is.

Paragon does accept PO's from educational institutions as well as any one
else. It is not unusual for a company to ask for the check to be attached
to a PO when the amount is so small. This is because it is a lot
more efficient for everyone involved to cut a check when the PO is written
up. I'm sorry if there was a misunderstanding here, please give Paragon
a call back.

>I guess that Nisus is targeted at the home user. But in that case,
>they really should send out upgrade notices - I learned about the
>release of Nisus 3.0 from MacWeek, which is not received by all home
>users.

Nisus is targeted to everyone who sees the value in a high quality product.
Version 3 was announced only one week ago at the MacWorld show in Boston. All
registered users of Nisus will be sent upgrade notices sometime within the
next week. It does not make sense to inform users of an upgrade to a product
until the product is ready to ship, that is why Paragon has waited until now
to send them out.

-jOn

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tarr-michael@cs.yale.edu (michael tarr) (08/17/90)

Will Nissus 3.0 let you bind curor movement commands to the control and
escape keys ala emacs? Basically I want emacs on a mac but with text
formatting -- is Nissus capable of doing this?

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amun@quads.uchicago.edu (james frederick amundson) (08/22/90)

Does anyone know if there is any sort of demo available for Nisus 3.0?
Since I am considering switching away from Word, I also need to know about
equation-generating software.  Can anyone tell me about prices/where
to order Expressionist and/or MathType?

Thanks ever so much,

Jim Amundson
amun@midway.uchicago.edu

8-( No witty quote.

ghh@clarity.Princeton.EDU (Gilbert Harman) (08/25/90)

I have just received the Nisus 3.0 upgrade.  It is possible
to assign a function to a sequence of 1-3 command-key
combinations.  But, as far as I can tell, the command-key
has to be part of the combination.  So, for example, you
could assign forward-word to the sequence:
	<command>-<escape>, <command>-F
but not to the sequence:
	<escape>, F
Alternatively, you could use a single combination of 3 keys:
	<option>-<command>-F

As far as I can see, if you want to come close to using
	<control>-X, <control>-S
to save a file, you need to add the command key to the
combination:
	<command>-<control>-X, <command>-<control>-S

If there is a way to use combinations that do not contain
<command> in them, I would be grateful to hear about it.
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KPURCELL@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK (09/01/90)

My biggest grip with Nisus 2.11 is reading files from other wordprocessors.

1. WriteNow format is not supported. This may not have the biggest number of
users, but I would predicte that several WriteNow users would like to move
up to Nisus (I can name at least 2: Don Crabb and myself). Both follow a
similar philosophy: they're quick, straightforward and they're no Word or
MacWrite. Users of WriteNow that I have shown Nisus are impressed, but they
blanch when they see how they have to convert their files.

2. RTF is not supported. This would alleviate the first problem to some extent
it is almost a standard too.

3. The fast-saved Word formats are not supported -- this is a pain when people
save their documentation with this 'feature' turned on.

BTW, if you are goinf to take advantage of the XTND ideas put out by Claris
the cute icon selection of the file type should dissapear in favour of a
pop-up menu. This must be the way to go.

Despite these gripes Nisus is still the best on the market (so please send me
the upgrade quickly :-)

Finally a question: Does 'Nisus' mean anything? How does it relate to the
strongman icon? Inquiring minds want to know.

Curiously yours,

Kevin Purcell             | kpurcell@liverpool.ac.uk
Surface Science Centre    |
Liverpool University      | Omit needless words.

charles@tasis.eecs.utas.edu.au (Charles Lakos) (09/04/90)

In article <90244.151449KPURCELL@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK>, KPURCELL@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK
writes...
> My biggest grip with Nisus 2.11 is reading files from other wordprocessors.
> 
As a matter of interest, what interchange of files with other word processors
is supported in Nisus 3?

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jeremyr@cs.qmw.ac.uk (Jeremy Roussak) (09/06/90)

In <90244.151449KPURCELL@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK> KPURCELL@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK writes:
>Finally a question: Does 'Nisus' mean anything? How does it relate to the
>strongman icon? Inquiring minds want to know.

I don't know if this is in fact the origin of the name, but Nisus is a 
character in the Aenid.  He was a Trojan and great friend of Eurysalus:
when the latter was killed in a night-time raid, Nisus went to avenge
him and was himself killed in battle.  The two names became a byword
for friendships.

Presumable the name was chosen because the program is a strong friend....
It fits with the icon, anyway.

Jeremy Roussak

jas@ISI.EDU (Jeff Sullivan) (09/07/90)

Isn't anyone disappointed in the quality of the so-called "style
sheets" in Nisus 3.0?  They just added rulers to the 2.0 styles!  I'd
expect a bit more, you know?

jas

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pv9y@vax5.cit.cornell.edu (09/07/90)

In article <14873@venera.isi.edu>, jas@ISI.EDU (Jeff Sullivan) writes:
> Isn't anyone disappointed in the quality of the so-called "style
> sheets" in Nisus 3.0?  They just added rulers to the 2.0 styles!  I'd
> expect a bit more, you know?

No actually I really like the style sheets in Nisus 3.0. Most of the
time I only want to do the kind of style sheets that are handled by
the named rulers and don't want to mess with the character styles.
Other times I only want to do character styles (like don't spell check
net addresses - I'll be writing a macro to find all net addresses and
mark them as don't spell check because they are always wrong in the
checker's eyes). I use styles heavily in PageMaker 3.02 and haven't
run into any limitations in the way Nisus combines named rulers and
User styles in comparison. I don't use styles in Word 4.0 much because
I detest the interface for creating them (along with the rest of Word
4.0's interface) so I can't compare the functionality there.

My only gripe, and the guy I spoke to at Paragon said he was working
on it personally, is that Nisus styles aren't imported into PageMaker
styles. I can live without it, but it would be a nice feature.

Adam


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