mouse@vaxb.acs.unt.edu (Dhanapong Saengrussamee-University of North Texas) (09/06/90)
In article <6319@jhunix.HCF.JHU.EDU>, ins_apw@jhunix.HCF.JHU.EDU (Philip Wong) writes: > I tried this guy out...2.0c and it is still too buggy to be used. I admit > taht the screen savers modules are the best ever--Satori is my favorite. > For anyone with a ci or wanting to do telecom, the program is unusable. > It causes conflicts with fonts (menus as well as files) and doesn't work with > modems...ie when you are u/l or d/l, it doesn't go on if you are using System > IQ. When you aren't using System IQ, it crashes. Pyro 4.0 (I hate to say it) > is much better if you are an avid telecommer. -- I just got my upgrade this morning, finally. Installed it. Then I was on AppleLink and Compu$erve earlier this afternoon, and it is woking fine here. I thought I heard something about a bug in the MacWorld version. Somebody mentioned it on the net. May be it just a dream. Bruce, AfterDark guy, correct me if I am wrong. 8^( Also what I got is 2.0s. Modified date is August 18, 1990. 94,067 bytes. Follows the alphabet list, yours is more than a dozen off! 8^) __Mouse.o()~ Dhanapong Saengrussamee | AppleLink: U1364 | BITNET: mouse@untvax Technical Support, CECS Dept. | BIX: d.mouse.s | Compu$erve: 71301,1516 University of North Texas | Internet: mouse@vaxb.acs.unt.edu PO Box 5155 - UNT Station | UUCP: ...!uunet!ntvax!vaxb.acs.unt.edu!mouse Denton, TX 76203-5155 | Phone: (817) 565-4435 | FAX: (817) 565-4425
dpaight@weber.ucsd.edu (Daniel Paight) (09/06/90)
DS> Also what I got is 2.0s. Modified date is August 18, 1990. DS> 94,067 bytes. Follows the alphabet list, yours is more than DS> a dozen off! 8^) Hmm. My copy (purchased from Egghead a week ago) says 2.0h. Haven't had any problems with crashes.
jimb@silvlis.com (Jim Budler) (09/07/90)
In article <2887@network.ucsd.edu> dpaight@weber.ucsd.edu (Daniel Paight) writes: >DS> Also what I got is 2.0s. Modified date is August 18, 1990. >Hmm. My copy (purchased from Egghead a week ago) says 2.0h. Haven't >had any problems with crashes. I mentioned having 2.0h about a week ago, and received a letter from the author (Bruce Burkhalter ??? I think). He described the usual "find a bug, fix a bug, cause a bug" scenario, but what it boils down to is 2.0h is better than previous, but has a bug, 2.0s is current. My 2.0s is in the mail. Contact Berkeley Systems, yours will be too. jimb P.S. I got my ResEdit 2.0b2 with manual from APDA. So they're shipping now. -- Jim Budler jimb@silvlis.com +1.408.991.6061 Silvar-Lisco, Inc. 703 E. Evelyn Ave. Sunnyvale, Ca. 94086
news@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU (Six o'clock News) (09/09/90)
>DS> 94,067 bytes. Follows the alphabet list, yours is more than >DS> a dozen off! 8^) > >Hmm. My copy (purchased from Egghead a week ago) says 2.0h. Haven't >had any problems with crashes. From: bruce@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Bruce Burkhalter) Path: cory.Berkeley.EDU!bruce The "bug" we fixed was actually protection against programs that do bad things, mainly sound. There are two ways to do sound on the Mac, the good Apple supported way and the bad unsupported way. If a program is doing sound the good way (like AD 2.0) and somebody tries to play sound the bad way, the Mac will crash or do something bad. After AD 2.0 and AD 2.0h came out we found there were a fair number of programs that do sound the bad way. So now AD 2.0s tries to keep this from happening. Even though the problem is not really ours, people will keep the program that is more important and nuke the one that is not as important (AD 2.0). There is nothing wrong with this. I would do the same. So instead of waiting for other companies to fix their programs, it is easier for us to try to avoid them. Bruce Burkhalter Berkeley Systems, Inc.
jas@ISI.EDU (Jeff Sullivan) (09/11/90)
I have noticed a problem with AD 2.0 that is pretty consistent. I often power up my Mac II and walk away to let it boot up (it takes a while, unfortunately). I do this with the monitor off. Now, sometimes, when I come back and flip on the monitor, I see the Fish! message "Fish Initializing, hold on..." (loose paraphrase). The problem is, the Mac's hung; it never comes back. this has happend 4 or 5 times recently, and always with Fish! Since I'm using Random, and I like Fish! (it works fine all other times), I don't want to remove it. Any idea what's wrong? jas -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeffrey A. Sullivan | Senior Systems Programmer jas@venera.isi.edu | Information Sciences Institute jas@isi.edu DELPHI: JSULLIVAN | University of Southern California
ins_apw@jhunix.HCF.JHU.EDU (Philip Wong) (09/11/90)
I turned off the messages module and haven't had any crashes since. It seems that there is a conflict with ATM. The module hangs the computer with the message half onscreen (after leaving the computer unattended for long periods of time). ins_apw@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu
dpaight@weber.ucsd.edu (Daniel Paight) (09/11/90)
In article <6380@jhunix.HCF.JHU.EDU> ins_apw@jhunix.UUCP (Philip Wong) writes: >I turned off the messages module and haven't had any crashes since. >It seems that there is a conflict with ATM. The module hangs the >computer with the message half onscreen (after leaving the computer unattended for long periods of time). > >ins_apw@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu I also use ATM with the message module (AD 2.0h). Have never had an After-Dark-related crash. And yes, the module is using ATM to scale the font. 72-point Times Bold Italic: Back to Work!
news@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU (Six o'clock News) (09/12/90)
>It seems that there is a conflict with ATM. The module hangs the >computer with the message half onscreen (after leaving the computer unattended for long periods of time). > >ins_apw@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu From: bruce@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Bruce Burkhalter) Path: cory.Berkeley.EDU!bruce Phillip - Please call us!!!!! We did a lot of testing with ATM and AD 2.0, especially Messages. While we don't know of any problem, you may have found one. Either way, I don't want AD 2.0 crashing for any reason. Bruce Burkhalter
aloh@earthquake.Berkeley.EDU (Andy Loh) (09/12/90)
In article <27692@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> : >>It seems that there is a conflict with ATM. The module hangs the >>computer with the message half onscreen (after leaving the computer unattended for long periods of time). >> I had a similar problem with the picture module. The picture that I created with a paint program requires ATM to generate the text. If I don't use ATM for anything before activating AD, the Mac (IIcx) hangs. However, if I use ATM for anything first, then there's usually no problem. Andy (aloh@ocf.berkeley.edu)
news@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU (Six o'clock News) (09/12/90)
>>>It seems that there is a conflict with ATM. The module hangs the >>>computer with the message half onscreen (after leaving the computer unattended > for long periods of time). >>> > >I had a similar problem with the picture module. The picture that I >created with a paint program requires ATM to generate the text. If >I don't use ATM for anything before activating AD, the Mac (IIcx) >hangs. However, if I use ATM for anything first, then there's usually >no problem. > >Andy (aloh@ocf.berkeley.edu) From: bruce@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Bruce Burkhalter) Path: cory.Berkeley.EDU!bruce I am not sure I understand the sequence. Let me know if I am wrong. You create a picture in a paint program that has text in it. You then display this picture in AD with the Picture Frame module. If you display the picture with AD before using ATM, the Mac will crash when AD kicks in. If ATM has been used, then the Mac will not crash. Is this correct? What paint program are you using? Bruce Burkhalter Berkeley Systems, Inc.
ngg@bridge2.ESD.3Com.COM (Norman Goodger) (09/14/90)
In article <6380@jhunix.HCF.JHU.EDU> ins_apw@jhunix.UUCP (Philip Wong) writes: >I turned off the messages module and haven't had any crashes since. >It seems that there is a conflict with ATM. The module hangs the >computer with the message half onscreen (after leaving the computer unattended for long periods of time). > I think this is one problem thati is fixed with the latest version of AD2.0s. I spotted this problem on a friends Mac and indicated that he might not have the latest version and when he received the upgrade, the problem went away... I don't know if this is the same problem you have, but you might make sure that you are using AD 2.0s. -- Norm Goodger SysOp - MacInfo BBS @415-795-8862 3Com Corp. Co-SysOp FreeSoft RT - GEnie. Enterprise Systems Division (I disclaim anything and everything) UUCP: {3comvax,auspex,sun}!bridge2!ngg Internet: ngg@bridge2.ESD.3Com.COM