a544@mindlink.UUCP (Rick McCormack) (09/19/90)
I often shift files between WP 4.2/5.0 from the old XT to my Mac Plus, via modem. I save the files in the Generic Word Processor format (Control F5, ?3?)on the xt and send em to the Mac. Most formatting is retained. Even Tabs seem to work, they don't become spaces. I use MS Word 4.00 on the Plus.
bin@primate.wisc.edu (Brain in Neutral) (09/20/90)
I am using Macintosh WordPerfect 1.0.5, and having trouble converting documents between it and PC WordPerfect. 1) Document created in PC WP 4.2. Uploaded to UNIX and back down to the Mac. Document reads in, but loses line breaks (turn into spaces) and wraparound (no space in between words). 2) Document created in PC WP 5.1. Uploaded to UNIX and back down to the Mac. Document does not read in: alert comes up saying "End of File". 3) Same as (2), but document saved in 5.0 format. Same result. 4) Document created in Mac WP, saved in 5.0 format. Uploaded to UNIX and back down to the PC. Document reads in to WP 5.1 but loses everthing past page 3 (of 11 pages). What gets converted is pretty acceptable, but losing pages isn't. Any hints? Should I try converting the files using PC disks and AFX? Is there a problem between PC files being flat and Macintosh files having two forks? Is Mac WP simply deficient and I should use Word for Word or some other converter? Paul DuBois dubois@primate.wisc.edu
bin@primate.wisc.edu (Brain in Neutral) (09/20/90)
[I wrote...] > > I am using Macintosh WordPerfect 1.0.5, and having trouble converting > documents between it and PC WordPerfect. Well, duh. The problem was the I was using kermit and didn't have *both* ends transferring in binary mode. Although I must say Mac WP doesn't do such a wonderful job of converting, even though it does do the conversion... -- Paul DuBois dubois@primate.wisc.edu "Was all of this because I wore a big man's hat?"
dana@are.berkeley.edu (Dana E. Keil) (09/20/90)
In article <3124@uakari.primate.wisc.edu> bin@primate.wisc.edu (Brain in Neutral) writes: > >I am using Macintosh WordPerfect 1.0.5, and having trouble converting >documents between it and PC WordPerfect. > >1) Document created in PC WP 4.2. Uploaded to UNIX and back down to the >Mac. Document reads in, but loses line breaks (turn into spaces) and >wraparound (no space in between words). > >2) Document created in PC WP 5.1. Uploaded to UNIX and back down to the >Mac. Document does not read in: alert comes up saying "End of File". > >3) Same as (2), but document saved in 5.0 format. Same result. > >4) Document created in Mac WP, saved in 5.0 format. Uploaded to UNIX and >back down to the PC. Document reads in to WP 5.1 but loses everthing past >page 3 (of 11 pages). What gets converted is pretty acceptable, but losing >pages isn't. > >Any hints? Should I try converting the files using PC disks and AFX? >Is there a problem between PC files being flat and Macintosh files having >two forks? Is Mac WP simply deficient and I should use Word for Word or >some other converter? > >Paul DuBois >dubois@primate.wisc.edu You don't mention one detail which may be the source of your difficulty, how are you moving the files between the desktop machines and the UNIX machine? The word processor document files you are dealing with should be transferred as binary files (not ascii text) so you have to make sure that your communication software on the Mac, the UNIX and DOS machines are set to send and receive binary. The other thing that might help is to give up trying to do anything with Mac WordPerfect 1.0.5 until version 2.0 comes out ;-).
bin@primate.wisc.edu (Brain in Neutral) (09/20/90)
From article <1990Sep19.185441.3022@agate.berkeley.edu>, by dana@are.berkeley.edu (Dana E. Keil): > The other thing that might help is to give up trying to do anything with > Mac WordPerfect 1.0.5 until version 2.0 comes out ;-). Which is when? I've heard "end of month", which I suppose means December :-) or :-(, who knows. Will it have better conversion filters? -- Paul DuBois dubois@primate.wisc.edu "Was all of this because I wore a big man's hat?"
dana@are.berkeley.edu (Dana E. Keil) (09/20/90)
In article <3129@uakari.primate.wisc.edu> bin@primate.wisc.edu writes: >From article <1990Sep19.185441.3022@agate.berkeley.edu>, by dana@are.berkeley.edu (Dana E. Keil): >> The other thing that might help is to give up trying to do anything with >> Mac WordPerfect 1.0.5 until version 2.0 comes out ;-). > >Which is when? I've heard "end of month", which I suppose means >December :-) or :-(, who knows. > >Will it have better conversion filters? >-- >Paul DuBois >dubois@primate.wisc.edu > > "Was all of this because I wore a big man's hat?" I haven't heard much about actual dates lately. When WordPerfect came to BMUG to show 2.0 a while ago if sounded like it should be coming pretty soon now (this Fall sometime) and yes, they claimed it was going to handle conversions a lot better. By the way, though, do you *want* to use WordPerfect on the Mac? I mean, if your only concern is translation between Macs and WordPerfect on the PC, you don't have to use WordPerfect on the Mac. Translation between PC WordPerfect and various Mac word processors (I use Word) is easily done with MacLink translators from DataViz. You can also save a Microsoft Word file from the Mac as Word DOS and then have the WordPerfect conversion program make the translation from MS Word PC to WordPerfect PC. Sometimes this seems to handle things even better than the DataViz translator (which, by the way, is the same thing as the most recent version of the TOPS translators).
pv9y@vax5.cit.cornell.edu (09/20/90)
In article <1990Sep19.202259.2607@agate.berkeley.edu>, dana@are.berkeley.edu (Dana E. Keil) writes: > By the way, though, do you *want* to use WordPerfect on the Mac? > I mean, if your only concern is translation between Macs and > WordPerfect on the PC, you don't have to use WordPerfect on the > Mac. Translation between PC WordPerfect and various Mac word > processors (I use Word) is easily done with MacLink translators > from DataViz. You can also save a Microsoft Word file from the Mac > as Word DOS and then have the WordPerfect conversion program make > the translation from MS Word PC to WordPerfect PC. Sometimes this > seems to handle things even better than the DataViz translator > (which, by the way, is the same thing as the most recent version of > the TOPS translators). Of course then you have to use Word, which is above and beyond the call of punishment :-). Seriously, I've found that the fewest number of file formats you go through, the better. And WordPerfect 2.0 does look pretty snazzy. I've heard October from WP reps at several occasions... Adam -- Adam C. Engst pv9y@vax5.cit.cornell.edu --------------------------------------------------------------- Editor of TidBITS, the weekly electronic Macintosh news journal
an12280@mdaali.cancer.utexas.edu (David Gutierrez) (09/20/90)
In article <1990Sep19.202259.2607@agate.berkeley.edu> dana@are.berkeley.edu (Dana E. Keil) writes: > By the way, though, do you *want* to use WordPerfect on the Mac? Once version 2.0 comes out, I think you will. It does a lot of good stuff and seems pretty easy to use. For those of us who aren't wedded to Word, this may be the program we're looking for. David Gutierrez an12280@mdaali.cancer.utexas.edu "Only fools are positive." - Moe Howard