mbharrin@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (eat life before it eats you) (10/21/90)
I have been told that Mathematica will only run on a Mac II. Is this true, or will it run on my SE? Can anyone suggest anything comparable that will run on my SE? -- Matthew B. Harrington Internet: matt@ucsd.edu University of California at San Diego Bitnet: MATT@UCSD 9450 Gilman Dr. 926067 UUCP: ucsd!matt La Jolla, CA 92092-6067 Tel: (619) 457-9884
johnsone@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (10/21/90)
/* Written 6:23 pm Oct 20, 1990 by mbharrin@sdcc13.ucsd.edu */ > I have been told that Mathematica will only run on > a Mac II. Is this true, or will it run on my SE? Can anyone > suggest anything comparable that will run on my SE? As I understand it, there are two versions of Mathematica. One is the MacII version that needs 4 Meg RAM to run (and I think it also needs a Floating Point unit); the other is a non-FPU version for SE that only needs 2.5 Meg. Don't know if these versions are the most current, but hope it helps anyway. Erik A. Johnson, Graduate Student \ Internet: johnsone@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu Aeronautical & Astronautical Engineering \ University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign \ AmericaOnline: ErikAJ
ajl45082@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Alan Jay Levy) (10/21/90)
In article <13431@sdcc6.ucsd.edu> mbharrin@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (eat life before it eats you) writes: >I have been told that Mathematica will only run on >a Mac II. Is this true, or will it run on my SE? Can anyone >suggest anything comparable that will run on my SE? > The Standard version of Mathematica WILL run on an SE provided that you have 2.5Megs of RAM. 4 Megs of RAM is recommended. Alan Levy
wpedigo@pikes.Colorado.EDU (Walter R. Pedigo) (10/21/90)
In article <13431@sdcc6.ucsd.edu>, mbharrin@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (eat life before it eats you) writes: > I have been told that Mathematica will only run on > a Mac II. Is this true, or will it run on my SE? Mathematica 1.2 requires a minimum of a Mac Plus, 2.5 MB (4 MB recommended) and hard disk. Mathematica MacII 1.2 Supports the 68881 math co-processor Hope this helps
gillies@m.cs.uiuc.edu (10/22/90)
If you want to do any 3-D plotting, I recommend 5Mb. Yes, I realize you cannot put 5Mb of memory into an SE. With 5Mb (in an SE/030), I run out of memory every 15-30 minutes, and have to restart the program. I suggest you practice using mathematica on a 4Mb SE for a while, before committing yourself to a $495 program that will run out of memory so quickly. There are other serious limitations to the 3-D plotting capabilities in mathematica (like an inability to sufficiently influence how the plots are labeled).
phil@waikato.ac.nz (10/23/90)
In article <13431@sdcc6.ucsd.edu>, mbharrin@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (eat life before it eats you) writes: > I have been told that Mathematica will only run on > a Mac II. Is this true, or will it run on my SE? Can anyone > suggest anything comparable that will run on my SE? As others have said there is a standard and enhanced version, the latter being for II-class Macs. We have the Mathematica Front End, which runs the Mac interface for Mathematica on (apparently) a 1 Mb Mac (but ours has 2.5 Mb) while the kernel, runs on a remote Sun SparcStation (with plenty of memory). It seems to work very well, and is well worth it if you already have Mathematica on a workstation, and have TCP access (e.g. Telnet) to it from the Mac, as the Front End is quite cheap. On the other hand, we also have Maple, which runs just fine on a 1 Mb Mac and is a well proven, robust mathematical tool. It has graphics, but not as powerful as Mathematica. I like it. -- Phil Etheridge (phil@waikato.ac.nz) /\ /\ -+-,--, .--, ._ Computer Services/Mathematics & Statistics / \/ \ / /--< /-- / University of Waikato, Hamilton, NZ. / \/ /__.) \_ /
rwt@ohm.york.ac.uk (Richard Taylor) (10/23/90)
in article <13431@sdcc6.ucsd.edu>, mbharrin@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (eat life before it eats you) says: > Nntp-Posting-Host: sdcc13.ucsd.edu > > I have been told that Mathematica will only run on > a Mac II. Is this true, or will it run on my SE? Can anyone > suggest anything comparable that will run on my SE? There are two versions of mathematica for the Mac, one requires a floating point co-processor and the other does not. The second one (cheaper by a long way, but a lot slower for rendering etc..) will run on an SE with 2.5MByte+ memory. From our local experience I would not recommend that you run it on anything less than 4MB, Richard -- ****************************************************************** * Dr R W Taylor tel : (44) 904 432351 fax : 432353 * * Adaptive Systems Group email : rwt1@uk.ac.york * * University of York, England *
edgar@function.mps.ohio-state.edu (Gerald Edgar) (10/23/90)
* the Front End is quite cheap
Does someone have some prices on this? Sorry, we cannot include it with
every Mac sold on campus. (That was vetoed by the Music school.)
--
Gerald A. Edgar
Department of Mathematics Bitnet: EDGAR@OHSTPY
The Ohio State University Internet: edgar@mps.ohio-state.edu
Columbus, OH 43210 ...!{att,pyramid}!osu-cis!shape.mps.ohio-state.edu!edgarnvi@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Charles C. Allen) (10/23/90)
In article <70100023@m.cs.uiuc.edu>, gillies@m.cs.uiuc.edu writes: > I suggest you practice using mathematica on a 4Mb SE for a while, > before committing yourself to a $495 program that will run out of > memory so quickly. There are other serious limitations to the 3-D > plotting capabilities in mathematica (like an inability to > sufficiently influence how the plots are labeled). You might also want to check out Theorist and Maple. Both run with smaller memory partitions than Mathematica (I run Theorist in a 3M partition with no problem). Charles Allen Internet: cca@physics.purdue.edu Department of Physics nvi@mace.cc.purdue.edu Purdue University HEPnet: purdnu::allen, fnal::cca West Lafayette, IN 47907 talknet: 317/494-9776
tbutler@wpi.WPI.EDU (Tim Butler) (10/24/90)
Excuse me if this post comes out a little funny, I am stuck using using a braindead terminal: Wolfram Research was running a special on the standard version of Mathematica (no coprocessor support) for students only (aren't we all?) for only US$139. The phone number is 1 800 441 math (I'm pretty sure) (no hyphens on my terminal) call 800 information if it doesn't work. Maybe if we all call and say well buy only the MC68882 (mac ii) version they'll sell that one instead. (just me saying that didn't work). I also just bought 1 meg 80ns simms for $41 ea. from micro electronic technology in Hopkinton Mass. (Intel chips made in good old USA too) Email if you can't find their small ad in the back of macuser/macworld for the phone number. Came with instructions but no tools. Technology works was $49 the same day. Tim Butler (tbutler@wpi.wpi.edu) Teaching Assistant HL 103b ext.5424 soon to be at: Department of Mechanical Engineering Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute Worcester Polytechnic Institute tim@rpi.edu should work -- Tim Butler (tbutler@wpi.wpi.edu) Teaching Assistant HL 103b ext.5424 soon to be at: Department of Mechanical Engineering Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute Worcester Polytechnic Institute no Internet address yet
dropkin@pro-angmar.UUCP (Joe Dropkin) (10/24/90)
In-Reply-To: message from mbharrin@sdcc13.ucsd.edu It will run on an SE.