[comp.sys.mac.apps] PageMaker 4.0 + Networks = Nothing Useful

eoshough@nmsu.edu (Mel Callender) (01/24/91)

(This is aimed at all you PageMaker guru's out there)

I'm in charge of a Mac network, and just recently I was handed a big
wad of Student PageMaker 4.0 disks, told to install it on our network
and on various hard drives.  ( We have 21 licenses, and in the zone it
was installed there are only 15 machines, and the other 6 go on Mac
II's with harddrives.)  Fine.  After a serious amount of fooling
around, the student version of PageMaker 4.0 lives on the network and
on the 6 Mac II's with harddisks.  Great.  Now, I try to print from
these machines, notably the Mac II installations, and the job is
flushed by the LaserWriter (who is connected to an AppleShare
spooler).  More fooling around results in replacing Aldus's Aldus Prep
with a fake constructed with a Laser Prep whose type and creator
has been changed to those of the Aldus Prep. ( Follow me so far? :) )

This seems to work alright, so no problem. >>BEEEEPPPP<< wrong.

PageMaker 3.0x continues to live in another zone with shares the
printers that PageMaker 4.0 uses.  This causes a Prep crash in the
printer because the 3.0x are using the 3.0 Aldus Prep. PageMaker 4.0
would try to print, and when it saw the old Prep in the LaserWriter,
it would say 'No way, Jose' and cancel the job.

Quick call to Aldus confirms that by substituting the Aldus Prep 4.0
for the old Aldus Prep 3.0 will solve the problem.  So I spend better
part of a day upgrading every installation of PageMaker 3.0 that could
conceivable print to my printer to the new Prep file, and breath a
sigh of relief.  Too soon.  Now it seems completely non-deterministic
whether a job from PageMaker 3.0x or PageMaker 4.0 will print or be
flushed.

Needless to say, I'm am pretty frustrated.

And so, I turn to the 'Million Dollar' net.

If anyone has encountered this problem, or has a practical suggestion
for a different approach ( i.e. one that doesn't involve major
hardware/software upgrades ), or comments in general, please mail me 
at the address below.

If the above needs clarification ( with my state of mind, I'm sure it
does! ) please do not hesitate to ask for it.  Flames for buying
PageMaker and not something else will be completely ignored, I had no
choice in the matter.

Waiting anxiously..


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steve@violet.berkeley.edu (Steve Goldfield) (01/24/91)

In article <EOSHOUGH.91Jan23124544@dante.nmsu.edu> eoshough@nmsu.edu (Mel Callender) writes:

Problem of PageMaker 4.0 and a spooler, not printing.

Here's what Aldus told me when I tried to print with
SuperLaserSpool; actually I don't think it was Aldus
but the company currently responsible for SuperLaserSpool.
If you try to print a complex PageMaker file, the spooler
tries to stick all the commands into a spool file--downloaded
fonts, etc. The file gets very big. At that point, it gives
up and nothing prints. I think a small file will print,
though I haven't bothered to try. As a result, I keep
printing from PageMaker in the foreground and cursing
as it ties up my machine.

I can understand the inability to handle very large spool
files. What I find incompetent is that no error message
is sent to the user. Nothing at all happens.

Steve Goldfield

gjb@cs.brown.edu (Gregory Brail) (01/25/91)

In article <EOSHOUGH.91Jan23124544@dante.nmsu.edu> eoshough@nmsu.edu (Mel Callender) writes:
>
>Now, I try to print from
>these machines, notably the Mac II installations, and the job is
>flushed by the LaserWriter (who is connected to an AppleShare
>spooler).  

PageMaker isn't always happy printing through the AppleShare Print
Server, especially if you're using downloaded fonts. Try printing
straight to the printer, bypassing the print server entirely. (Be sure
the "bypass" option is turned on in the print server.) 

If this doesn't work, try using the Apple print driver rather than the
Aldus driver.  You do this by pushing the "Change" button on the
bottom of the PageMaker 4.0 "Print" dialog box and changing the
"Driver" option from Aldus to Apple. (If I remember correctly.) This
will also solve your problem with incompatible Aldus Prep files, since
the Apple driver bypasses Aldus Prep. 

					-greg

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