rgonzal@elbereth.rutgers.edu (Ralph Gonzalez) (01/29/91)
I haven't tried it, but there is a shareware C compiler for the Mac called Sesame C. It is available from Educorp (among other places), 531 Stevens Ave., Ste. B, Solana Beach, CA 92075. -Ralph
johnston@oscar.ccm.udel.edu (01/30/91)
In article <Jan.29.08.44.49.1991.27883@elbereth.rutgers.edu>, rgonzal@elbereth.rutgers.edu (Ralph Gonzalez) writes... >I haven't tried it, but there is a shareware C compiler for the Mac >called Sesame C. It is available from Educorp (among other places), >531 Stevens Ave., Ste. B, Solana Beach, CA 92075. It is also available by anonymous ftp from sumex ( 36.44.0.6 ). You'll find it as sesame-c-compiler.hqx in the /info-mac/lang directory. Nevertheless, the original question brings to mind a statement made by the oil-well fire fighter Red Adair who was interviewed recently about the Gulf situation: "If you think an expert is expensive, try hiring an amateur." -- Bill (johnston@oscar.ccm.udel.edu)
johnston@oscar.ccm.udel.edu (01/30/91)
In article <43092@nigel.ee.udel.edu>, johnston@oscar.ccm.udel.edu writes... >It is also available by anonymous ftp from sumex ( 36.44.0.6 ). >You'll find it as sesame-c-compiler.hqx in the /info-mac/lang >directory. Johnston is clearly an idiot. The Sesame C compiler was removed from the archives in favor of "gcc-137-part%.hqx" (parts 1-6). I assume that this is a "gnu-er" cheap C compiler, but I have not checked it out. If anybody is interested in the nearly useless 1986-era Sesame C compiler that used to be in the archives, I would be happy to e-mail a copy. -- Bill (johnston@oscar.ccm.udel.edu)
rabbit42@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Bruce Corwin McLaren) (01/30/91)
johnston@oscar.ccm.udel.edu writes: >Nevertheless, the original question brings to mind a statement >made by the oil-well fire fighter Red Adair who was interviewed >recently about the Gulf situation: >"If you think an expert is expensive, try hiring an amateur." >-- Bill (johnston@oscar.ccm.udel.edu) on that note, a recomendation AGAINST a cheap C compiler. Aztec C from Manx is cheaper, but has several holes. sqrt() and ran() don't work as documented (don't ask), pow() doesn't work at all, it isn't possible to make a selection from a menu, set the random number seed, or use any penpat except all black. There are a few others, but i've given up trying to use it to access the toolbox routines at all. i got what i paid for, not much. bruce -- Bruce McLaren | There is no problem too big rabbit42@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (for most stuff) | to run away from mclaren@eesun1.eece.ksu.edu (for work) | rabbit42@ksuvm.ksu.edu (if all else fails) \|/
jackb@MDI.COM (Jack Brindle) (01/31/91)
In article <1991Jan30.154837.12805@maverick.ksu.ksu.edu> rabbit42@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Bruce Corwin McLaren) writes: >on that note, a recomendation AGAINST a cheap C compiler. Aztec C from >Manx is cheaper, but has several holes. sqrt() and ran() don't work as >documented (don't ask), pow() doesn't work at all, it isn't possible to >make a selection from a menu, set the random number seed, or use any penpat >except all black. There are a few others, but i've given up trying to use >it to access the toolbox routines at all. i got what i paid for, not much. >bruce Interesting - I bought Aztec in 1984, when it was virtually the only game in town. I kept it up to date until about two years ago when Manx seemed to drop support. It has been an excellent system with features not found in other C compilers. These include support for A4 instead of A5 making it easier to write stand-alone code. The code is compact and quite predictable. I have written many Mac stand-alone applications with the system. The big problem is the fact that Manx has not updated the Toolbox interface files and libraries in a couple of years. Specifically, the calls described in I.M. vol 5 are generally not supported. This makes programming for MultiFinder a bit difficult, not to mention System 7... I have now switched to MPW for my work. At least its developer keeps the libraries up to date :-). But, for a beginner, it's a good system. And, if you are comfortable with the UNIX interface, it feels like home. For a Mac person, choose either Think or MPW. There ARE good reasons these two packages sell so well... Jack Brindle.
time@tbomb.ice.com (Tim Endres) (01/31/91)
In article <15534@milton.u.washington.edu>, bose@milton.u.washington.edu (Rob Olsen) writes: > I bought THINK C and like it very much. Although I've never had a chance to > use any other C compilers, I can assure you that THINK C is a great system > to develop stand-alone or ANSI code. Being an MPW C coder exclusively, I do not hesitate to say that the Think-C compiler is the best bargain for anyone looking to get started programming C on the Mac. tim. ------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Endres | time@ice.com ICE Engineering | uupsi!ice.com!time 8840 Main Street | Voice FAX Whitmore Lake MI. 48189 | (313) 449 8288 (313) 449 9208