[comp.sys.mac.apps] Any way to use control key in MS Word 4?

johnston@oscar.ccm.udel.edu (Bill Johnston) (02/13/91)

I'm stumped!  I can't find a way to use the control key on my
(regular Mac) keyboard as part of a "Command-key".  What's worse,
the control key doesn't seem to be mentioned in the manual.

I can't be the only Word user that would like to make Word keystroke
bindings match up with a "primitive" (but memorized) text editor ...

... thanks ....

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aland@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Alan D Danziger) (02/14/91)

In article <44501@nigel.ee.udel.edu> johnston@oscar.ccm.udel.edu (Bill Johnston) writes:

   I'm stumped!  I can't find a way to use the control key on my
   (regular Mac) keyboard as part of a "Command-key".  What's worse,
   the control key doesn't seem to be mentioned in the manual.

   I can't be the only Word user that would like to make Word keystroke
   bindings match up with a "primitive" (but memorized) text editor ...

If you are referring to Emacs, I have a so-called 'Word ->Emacs'
settings file for 4.0 (which I haven't tried) which supposedly maps
the keys that way.  If you need it, ask.

As far as the control key goes, on my SE/30 I just go to commands and
'add key' and type control-<whatever> and it worked.

Now, if you are referring to vi, I'm sure the command settings file
exists, or could be created fairly 'easily', relatively speaking.  But
I don't know vi so I couldn't do it.
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johnston@oscar.ccm.udel.edu (02/14/91)

In article <ALAND.91Feb13121911@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu>, aland@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Alan D Danziger) writes...
>In article <44501@nigel.ee.udel.edu> johnston@oscar.ccm.udel.edu (Bill Johnston) writes:

In article <ALAND.91Feb13121911@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu>, you write...
>In article <44501@nigel.ee.udel.edu> johnston@oscar.ccm.udel.edu (Bill Johnston) writes:
> 
>   I'm stumped!  I can't find a way to use the control key on my
>   (regular Mac) keyboard as part of a "Command-key".  What's worse,
>   the control key doesn't seem to be mentioned in the manual.

>If you are referring to Emacs, I have a so-called 'Word ->Emacs'
>settings file for 4.0 (which I haven't tried) which supposedly maps
>the keys that way.  If you need it, ask.

This one uses the command-key as a substitute for the control key.
It doesn't actually make use of the command-key on the Mac keyboard.

>As far as the control key goes, on my SE/30 I just go to commands and
>'add key' and type control-<whatever> and it worked.

This positively DOES NOT WORK with my SE/30 and standard 
Mac ADB keyboard.  When I click the "Add" button, and type 
ctrl-(most characters), the Mac beeps and asks me to type
another character.

A few control-whatever combinations have functions that seem
to be hard coded: ctrl-H does a backward delete and ctrl-I inserts a
Tab.  When I type these combinations after clicking "Add" in the 
Commands dialog box, Word *thinks* I am typing "Delete" or "Tab" -- 
it asks if the user wants to remap those keys.  It puts the 
"Delete" or "Tab" keystroke symbol, rather than a control-key
symbol (for example, ^H).

There does not seem to be any way to explicitly incorporate
the control key when defining command key sequences;  this
is a waste of keyboard real-estate and also prevents exact
emulations of emacs, vi, or edt (my poison).

The alternatives are kludgy; MacroMaker and QuickKeys do allow
the control-key to be used to play macros.  That WORKS, but 
it is not as straight-forward as creating a custom Settings
file as Michael Travers did for the pseudo-Emacs settings
file that he posted.

-- Bill (johnston@oscar.ccm.udel.edu)