[comp.sys.mac.apps] Sum II Bug

mig7920@cec1.wustl.edu (Mark Israel Gross) (03/16/91)

I am curious to know whether anyone in netland has encountered similar problems
that I am experiencing from Symantec's 5-mice rated software.  After 3 
telephone calls to their tech support department I am reformatting my HD 40
in an SE/30 with 5MB Ram for the second time within 12 hrs. With the "Quick
Fix" program I am receiving an error message:
			Allocation map is invalid
			Directory is bad
I have a little over 4 MB of free space on the hard drive.  What concerns
me is that as I begin to approach the limits of space on my drive if there
is no agreement between the allocation map and the directory I will end
up writing into important files.  This brings to question the integrity of
the drive.  
	Yesterday when I spoke to Symantec I was told that I would have to
reformat the drive if the Disk First Aid program did not resolve my problem.
Disk First Aid reported that it could not verify the drive.  On my own
initiative I did a file and sector test available in the TuneUp tool.
This reported that all my files and the drive seemed to be in working
order.  With Apple's HD SC Setup program I tested the drive and was told
that the test was sucessful.  I then prepared to do the radical action
of taking my files off the suspicious drive and reinitialize.  Of course
this involved using Sum's awesomely slow BackUp program.  I did forget
to mention that I rebuilt the desktop and "snooped" around on a low-level
basis trying to determine the problem.
	After reinitializing the drive the Disk First Aid program reported
that the drive was fine and I slowly began to reinstall my software.  First
the System folder and then the Sum II folder followed by a full restore.
At each point along the way I ran Quick Fix and did not receive any error
messages.  When all my software was reloaded I ran the disk fragmentation
program. The Quick Fix still worked properly.  I then got bold and ran
the Optimization program.  As per the manuals instructions I used a floppy
with a sytem startup.  You really don't need the manual as the program has its
own safeguards built into it that requires that this tool be initiated from
a different startup disk.  Well the Quick Fix failed.  This was at 6 AM
after spending the entire evening on this ????@##$$% .
	I called Symantec this morning to inquire if there were any INITs
that conflicted with their Optimization program.  I was told no and that
if I prepared a floppy with a "stripped" down minimum version of the
system I should be able to go in with Quick Fix and resolve the problem.
This Technician insisted that the System File (not folder as I questioned
him on this) is adequated to start a Macintosh. Instead of inquiring what
INITs I was using and making some sort of report I was assured that their
software could not have caused the problem. I wondered yesterday and
was confirmed by this answer today that these technicians are cleverly
rehearsed in what answers they give to problems in an automaton fashion
and don't get their hands dirty by having to play with the machine.
	I am new to Mac programming and am quite fond of the machine.  But,
I am not new to programming.  I do know that "bugs" of this nature would
not receive kudos i.e. "5 mice ratings" (which I assume is the highest) on
other platforms.  I appologize for the wasted bandwidth but if anyone has
a solution please E-mail.  If my product was not older than 30 days you
can be sure that I would be returning it as a dissatisfied owner.

Mark Gross
mig7920@cec1.wustl.edu