acyoung@lynx.cat.syr.edu (Aaron C. Young) (05/08/91)
How do I make my Mac recognize a sound file. I have a sampler on my Amiga and I use software there to convert the sound file to mac format. Then I use Apple File exchange to bring the file over from DOS format to the mac. I get the data on to HD but it doesn't have any specific type. It certainly isn't look at as a sound file. SoundMover and SuperPlay don't recognize it at all. What can I do? Thanks, acyoung@sunrise.acs.syr.edu
gaynor@agvax2.ag.ohio-state.edu (05/08/91)
In article <1991May7.161658.29391@rodan.acs.syr.edu>, acyoung@lynx.cat.syr.edu (Aaron C. Young) writes: > > How do I make my Mac recognize a sound file. I have a sampler on >my Amiga and I use software there to convert the sound file to mac format. >Then I use Apple File exchange to bring the file over from DOS format to >the mac. I get the data on to HD but it doesn't have any specific type. >It certainly isn't look at as a sound file. SoundMover and SuperPlay don't >recognize it at all. There are two 4 character fields associated with each file, called Creator and Type. Creator is used to designate to Application that created the file, and Type usually denotes the type of file (PICT, TEXT, etc.) Assuming that the file trasnferred over alright, you need to get a utility (like the old shareware version of DiskTop at sumex) that will let you view Creator and Type, and change them. Use the utility to find the creator and type on a sound file that -does- work, then change the creator and type on the Amiga-made sounds file to match. Then it should be recognized. This is most definitely a "hack" way of going about it, and can result in spectacular system crashes if things don't go right. Be warned... Jim Gaynor - AgVAX System Manager - Academic Computing - Ohio State University VMS:<gaynor@agvax2.ag.ohio-state.edu> UNIX:<gaynor@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Disclaimer : All opinions expressed here are mine and only mine. So there! Witty Quote: "Think, think, think, think..." - Winnie-the-Pooh, Taoist Bear.
weiss@mott.seas.ucla.edu (Michael Weiss) (05/10/91)
In article <1991May7.161658.29391@rodan.acs.syr.edu> acyoung@lynx.cat.syr.edu (Aaron C. Young) writes: > How do I make my Mac recognize a sound file. >It certainly isn't look at as a sound file. SoundMover and SuperPlay don't >recognize it at all. I'm posting this instead of e-mailing because I'm not sure of the sound format that the Amiga uses. However, as long as it is in the same format as SoundMaster uses, you can change the creator and type IDs of the file to the types used by SoundMaster. See, the problem is that in order for the Finder and other programs to know the "owner" of a document (like MSWord), there needs to be an identification code attached to the document. For example, all applications have a type "APPL". MSWord (the application) has type "APPL", and creator "MSWD". Now, with that information, any document created by MSWord will have the creator ID "MSWD", and the MSWord Document icon accordingly. Taking this one step further, when you use the "Open" command in MSWord, it will only show you files of creator "MSWD" (for the standard open). Now, if you apply this to your sounds, you will probably see that the sounds that you imported have the boring document icon. There is no "owner" of the documents. Here's where my knowledge ends. I forget the type and creator for SoundMaster type sounds. If anyone knows those, please post or e-mail (don't e-mail ME, though) the answer. OK, well, once you find out those codes, you can use either a DA like DiskTools II or DiskTop to change the codes to the right ones. ResEdit will also work. In all cases, you select the file, Get Info (using the program, NOT the Finder), and change the codes. -- \ | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | / - Michael Weiss weiss@watson.seas.ucla.edu | School of Engineering and - - izzydp5@oac.ucla.edu | Applied Science, UCLA - / | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | \
lev@dftnic.gsfc.nasa.gov (Brian S. Lev) (05/11/91)
In article <2699@lee.SEAS.UCLA.EDU>, weiss@mott.seas.ucla.edu (Michael Weiss) writes... >In article <1991May7.161658.29391@rodan.acs.syr.edu> acyoung@lynx.cat.syr.edu (Aaron C. Young) writes: >> How do I make my Mac recognize a sound file. >>It certainly isn't look at as a sound file. SoundMover and SuperPlay don't >>recognize it at all. > >I'm posting this instead of e-mailing because I'm not sure of the sound >format that the Amiga uses. However, as long as it is in the same format as >SoundMaster uses, you can change the creator and type IDs of the file to >the types used by SoundMaster. > I'm not real familiar with the Amiga, but setting a file to type FSSD and creator SFX! seems to make it acceptable to all the sound programs I've got (several!)... +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Brian Lev/STX (301)286-9514 (FTS)888-9514 | | NASA Goddard Space Flight Center DECnet: SDCDCL::LEV (6153::LEV) | | Advanced Data Flow Technology Office TCP/IP: lev@dftnic.gsfc.nasa.gov | | Code 930.4 BITNET: LEV@DFTBIT | | Greenbelt, MD 20771 TELENET: [BLEV/GSFCMAIL] | | X.400 Address: (C:USA,ADMD:TELEMAIL,PRMD:GSFC,O:GSFCMAIL,UN:BLEV) | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | "The ability of a network to knit together the members of a sprawling | | community has proved to be the most powerful way of fostering scienti- | | fic advancement yet discovered." -- Peter Denning | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | DISCLAIMER: THESE STATEMENTS ARE MY OWN AND *NOT* NASA'S OR STX'S! | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
JKT100@psuvm.psu.edu (JKT) (05/13/91)
In article <1991May7.161658.29391@rodan.acs.syr.edu>, acyoung@lynx.cat.syr.edu (Aaron C. Young) says: > > How do I make my Mac recognize a sound file. I have a sampler on >my Amiga and I use software there to convert the sound file to mac format. Aside from setting the filename and filetype (as described by others answering this post), you should know that the Amiga and Mac sounds are not compatible without being converted. One of them uses signed integers and the other uses unsigned (I can never remember which uses which.) Anyway, there are public domain programs available on the Amiga that will convert Amiga sounds to Mac format before you transfer them to the Mac. Check Amiga FTP sites and/or Amiga Fish disks for programs to do this. Apparently it's a very easy program to write in C, if you're a programmer. Kurt -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- :: Kurt Tappe (215) 363-9485 :: With. Without. And who'll :: :: 184 W. Valley Hill Rd. (home) :: deny it's what the fighting's || :: Malvern, PA 19355-2214 458-5000 || all about? - Pink Floyd :: :: (work) --------------------------------|| :: jkt100@psuvm.bitnet jkt100&psuvm.psu.edu QLink: KurtTappe || -----------------------------------------------------------------------
JKT100@psuvm.psu.edu (JKT) (05/13/91)
In article <91132.222445JKT100@psuvm.psu.edu>, I said: > >In article <1991May7.161658.29391@rodan.acs.syr.edu>, acyoung@lynx.cat.syr.edu >(Aaron C. Young) says: >> >> How do I make my Mac recognize a sound file. I have a sampler on >>my Amiga and I use software there to convert the sound file to mac format. > >Aside from setting the filename and filetype (as described by others >answering this post), you should know that the Amiga and Mac sounds >are not compatible without being converted. One of them uses signed >integers and the other uses unsigned (I can never remember which uses >which.) The following program is for your Amiga and will convert the files. It is uuencoded and ZOOed. 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