hartzell@CAMIS.Stanford.EDU (George Hartzell) (05/17/91)
We need to equip our labs with several minimal macs. These will be used for reading mail on a unix system (MacIP), running Word and some other basic mac applications, and doing some hypercard interfaces to sybase databases on our unix machine. We would like make sure that if/when we want to use X window system based programs that these machines will handle it. I've been told that running macX through an appletalk gateway isn't really usable, so they need to be ethernetable. Any comment? What kind of horsepower is minimally acceptable? Have you used macX on a(n): - classic - LC - SE/30? - Si Is 2 meg memory enough? Any comments will be appreciated thanks. g. -- George Hartzell voice: (415) 725-7421 Stanford Yeast Genome Project fax: (415)-723-7016 Stanford School of Medicine, Rm S337 email: hartzell@sumex-aim.Stanford.EDU Stanford, CA 94305-5120
sshws@convx1.lerc.nasa.gov (Herb Schilling) (05/17/91)
In article <1991May17.023402.16678@medisg.Stanford.EDU> hartzell@CAMIS.Stanford.EDU (George Hartzell) writes: > >We need to equip our labs with several minimal macs. These will be >used for reading mail on a unix system (MacIP), running Word and some >other basic mac applications, and doing some hypercard interfaces to >sybase databases on our unix machine. We would like make sure that >if/when we want to use X window system based programs that these >machines will handle it. > >I've been told that running macX through an appletalk gateway isn't >really usable, so they need to be ethernetable. Any comment? > >What kind of horsepower is minimally acceptable? Have you used macX on >a(n): > - classic > - LC > - SE/30? > - Si > >Is 2 meg memory enough? > >Any comments will be appreciated I am also currently ordering a Mac and would like to run MacX on it. So I would be interested in reading any info you receive on what hardware is required for good performance of MacX. I have have been asking around locally and electronically for info about MacX for a week or so. The only info I have found so far is that in general people like MacX. The only negative comment I received was from a fellow who said it was really slow but he was using Mac II's with 2Mb memory, standard video card and Localtalk connections. He admitted that with better hardware the performance would be better. The other responses I received did not indicate the hardware they were using MacX on . Some other issues I have been looking at are : 1. Can you get a 3-button mouse that will work with X windows and MacOS ? 2. What is the minimal video subsystem required ? -- Herb Schilling , NASA Lewis Research Center , 21000 Brookpark Road, Cleveland, Ohio 44135 . (216) 433-5058 sshws@convx1.lerc.nasa.gov
cfhacc@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (C. Haupt) (05/20/91)
In article <1991May17.121044.994@eagle.lerc.nasa.gov> sshws@convx1.lerc.nasa.gov (Herb Schilling) writes: >In article <1991May17.023402.16678@medisg.Stanford.EDU> hartzell@CAMIS.Stanford.EDU (George Hartzell) writes: >> [intro stuff deleted] >> >>I've been told that running macX through an appletalk gateway isn't >>really usable, so they need to be ethernetable. Any comment? >> We are supporting MacX throughout campus as we install Pathworks clients...the big question here is how busy is your localtalk segment?? For 'usable' performance we are recommending ethernet--even low use localtalk requires lots of patience. >>What kind of horsepower is minimally acceptable? Have you used macX on >>a(n): >> - classic >> - LC >> - SE/30? >> - Si si's and se/30's work fine with ethernet...haven't tested the LC with MacX, but it appears to have enough juice to cut it. I'd avoid the classic for network intensive tasks...I wish we had known that earlier... >> >>Is 2 meg memory enough? >> no, especially if you are going to use system 7 (or System 6, multifinder and any other apps)...our minimum recommendation is 4meg. The more open X windows you plan on having, the more memory you will need. (obviously :^)) [other stuff cut] > 1. Can you get a 3-button mouse that will work with X windows > and MacOS ? yes, haven't tried them yet...two companies that I recall seeing in the monthly mac mags--the companies' names escape me at the moment. > > 2. What is the minimal video subsystem required ? We are minimally recommending 640x480 screen resolutions...many many x apps expect 'workstation-size' resolutions, so even 640x480 may not be enough for some...The 'compact' or 'classic' family screens don't cut it. Christopher Haupt--RIT/ISC Soft.Supp. VOICENET: (716) 475 5342 INTERNET: cfhacc@ritvax.isc.rit.edu BITNET :cfhacc@ritvax.bitnet SNAILNET:RIT;ISC;One Lomb Memorial Dr.; PO BOX 9887;Rochester NY 14623-0887 USA