[comp.sys.mac.apps] dos mounter ?

hans@duttnph.tudelft.nl (Hans Buurman) (05/17/91)

I am interested in exchanging files with a mac using 720k MS-dos floppies.
Recently, I found a program on fuug.fi that would mount dos floppies as if
they were Mac floppies. Unfortunately, it won't work on our Mac fx.

The program is in:
  82 -rw-rw-r--  1 205          41579 Jan 24  1990 dosmounterdemo.sit

It is a demo called DOS Mounter of a commercial product. Of course, nobody
would spend money on a program if the demo won't work.

Is there a more recent demo out there ? Or another product which will do
the same ? Or am I stuck with the Apple file exchange ?

	Hans
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bmug@garnet.berkeley.edu (BMUG) (05/17/91)

In article <hans.674471980@galaxy> hans@duttnph.tudelft.nl (Hans Buurman) writes:
>I am interested in exchanging files with a mac using 720k MS-dos floppies.

Currently, the superior product in this category is AccessPC, manufactured
by Insignia Solutions, who also sell SoftPC.  I don't know about prices in
Europe, but it can be had for about $80 in the USA.

John Heckendorn
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kevinh@cmi.com (Kevin Hegg) (05/18/91)

You must have an old version of DosMounter. I just used it a few minutes 
ago on my Mac IIfx and it worked fine. By the way, I was also running 
under System 7.0.

Kevin Hegg, EDS Corp - Center for Machine Intelligence
2001 Commonwealth Blvd., Ann Arbor, Michigan 48105
Phone: (313) 995-0900  Internet: kevinh@cmi.com   Applelink: D5990

sardella@reliant.gsfc.nasa.gov (Tom Sardella) (05/21/91)

In article <hans.674471980@galaxy> hans@duttnph.tudelft.nl (Hans Buurman) writes:
>I am interested in exchanging files with a mac using 720k MS-dos floppies.
>Recently, I found a program on fuug.fi that would mount dos floppies as if
>they were Mac floppies. Unfortunately, it won't work on our Mac fx.
>

I don't know what version you have of the demo, but sometime back I
tried version 0.9 and it didn't work on the IIfx or the IIci.
I later purchased version 2.01 and it works fine on the IIfx.


	Tom Sardella
	sardella@strfleet.gsfc.nasa.gov

hans@duttnph.tudelft.nl (Hans Buurman) (05/21/91)

I asked about a product called Dos Mounter, of which I had the demo version
which didn't work for me.

Here are the responses I received. To sum it up:

- Get Access PC which is superior.
- Make sure that the disks are called DEMO etc. (this was correct).
- My problem is not with the machine, but probably with the screen size
  (this machine has a large screen).
  Hack the executable, get a hacked version, or buy the real program.

As the machine is not mine (it belongs to my group, and is password protected
so I need its manager to try anything), I will decide what to do together
with our local Mac manager.

Thanks to the people who supplied all the answers (in random order):

Scott E. Lasley <lasleyse@wam.umd.edu>
Charlie.Mingo@f421.n109.z1.FidoNet.Org (Charlie Mingo)
dplatt@ntg.com (Dave Platt)
Rick.Carter@brahms.udel.edu  (rwcarter@brahms.udel.edu)
Dave White <Dave.White@vulcan.anu.edu.au>
Nick Wilde <wilde@tigger.Colorado.EDU>
bmug@garnet.berkeley.edu (BMUG)
kevinh@cmi.com (Kevin Hegg)
Andreas Magnusson <c89andma@odalix.ida.liu.se>
sardella@reliant.gsfc.nasa.gov (Tom Sardella)

I have appended a copy of my question, and the relevant part of all the
answers (posted and mailed).

	Hans Buurman
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From: hans@duttnph.tudelft.nl (Hans Buurman)
Date: 17 May 91 09:19:40 GMT

I am interested in exchanging files with a mac using 720k MS-dos floppies.
Recently, I found a program on fuug.fi that would mount dos floppies as if
they were Mac floppies. Unfortunately, it won't work on our Mac fx.

The program is in:
  82 -rw-rw-r--  1 205          41579 Jan 24  1990 dosmounterdemo.sit

It is a demo called DOS Mounter of a commercial product. Of course, nobody
would spend money on a program if the demo won't work.

Is there a more recent demo out there ? Or another product which will do
the same ? Or am I stuck with the Apple file exchange ?
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From: Scott E. Lasley <lasleyse@wam.umd.edu>

I used the demo version 0.9 for about a year on my SE/30 and several 
IIcx's and IIci's under System 6.0.x without any major problems.
I recently bought the commercial version for myself. It has many 
nice features missing in the demo, and version 2.03 is System 7 
compatable according to Dayna.

I did have a problem getting the demo to run on two of the cx's with
portrait displays.  For some reason, the code to display the splash
screen during boot time would crash these Macs.  I used the MPW tool 
dumpobj to find the calls to drawpicture in the INIT code and changed 
the code so that the picture is not displayed.  The demo seems to
work without problems on these machines after this patch.
I don't know if such a hack will help with your problrms on the fx's,
but I can mail you the modified version of the demo if you like.

There is also a program called Access PC that allows you to work with 
DOS floppies as if they were Mac disks.  I have not used the product,
so I cannot compare it to DOS Mounter.
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From: Charlie.Mingo@f421.n109.z1.FidoNet.Org (Charlie Mingo)

   In order for the DEMO to work, you must label your disk "DEMO" in MS-DOS.  
(This restriction only applies to the demo version; if it were fully functional, 
no one would buy the commercial version.)

   Once the disk was relabelled, it worked fine on my Mac IIci (which has the
same floppy drive as the IIfx).
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From: dplatt@ntg.com (Dave Platt)

The mounter demo does work on my IIfx.  However, because it's a demo
version, it will _only_ mount disks whose volume name is DEMO.
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From: Rick.Carter@brahms.udel.edu  (rwcarter@brahms.udel.edu)

The demo works, but you name your ms-dos disks with a volume label starting
with DEMO then it will come up on your MacIIfx just like a regular Mac disk.
Of course, the dos mounter must be put in your system folder and reboot to
read in the init.  I have had no problems with this demo working on   
SE/30, MacIIcx, and MacIIsi.  The only incompatability I have seen which
may your problem is dos mounter will not function along with 32 bit
quickdraw.  If you have 32qd, then reboot without this init launching.
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From: Dave White <Dave.White@vulcan.anu.edu.au>

	The trick with the Dos Mounter Demo is that your disks have to be called 		demo
or it won't work. - took me a while to figure it out :-).  
It should work.
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From: Nick Wilde <wilde@tigger.Colorado.EDU>

This is just a wild guess, but you wouldn't happen to be working
on a fx that was upgraded from a II or IIx, would you ?  If so, it
may not have an FDHD (superdrive) both the dosmounterdemo and
AFE need an FDHD to work...

P.S. My wife uses dosmounterdemo on a cx and it works just fine..
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From: bmug@garnet.berkeley.edu (BMUG)

Currently, the superior product in this category is AccessPC, manufactured
by Insignia Solutions, who also sell SoftPC.  I don't know about prices in
Europe, but it can be had for about $80 in the USA.
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From: kevinh@cmi.com (Kevin Hegg)

You must have an old version of DosMounter. I just used it a few minutes 
ago on my Mac IIfx and it worked fine. By the way, I was also running 
under System 7.0.
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From: Andreas Magnusson <c89andma@odalix.ida.liu.se>

One thing: Are you sure the disks are called DEMO? If they are and if it work,
it is one of the most useful programs that I have...
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From: sardella@reliant.gsfc.nasa.gov (Tom Sardella)

I don't know what version you have of the demo, but sometime back I
tried version 0.9 and it didn't work on the IIfx or the IIci.
I later purchased version 2.01 and it works fine on the IIfx.
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Hans Buurman       (hans@duttnph.tudelft.nl)                 31-(0)15-78 46 94
Pattern Recognition Group   Faculty of Applied Physics   Delft Univ. of Techn.