ez002644@castor.ucdavis.edu (Eric W. Douglas) (06/11/91)
Okay, let's put an end to Quark installer debate... I by in no means meant to imply that Quark defaults in believing that all of its customers are crooks. Quark, IMO, is taking a realistic viewpoint in how they distribute their software and how it works. Scenario: I run XPress on a machine at work. I leave XPress running on it, while I move to another machine. I try to run XPress on another machine for whatever reason. This is the same copy of XPress, with the same serial number. At this point, I have already violated one stipulation in the Software License Agreement, which states: (paraphrased) "This program shall not be run on more than one individual machine at a time". If you check into it... I think a lot of you will see that much of your commercial software has this same stipulation. And hey, we're ALL guilty of it... but just because I'm trying to stretch my buck, doesn't mean that I am a crook, a fiend, etc... and I don't think that Quark thinks this either. They are merely trying to discourage anyone from breaking their License Agreements. If I were to sell software commercially, I'd want to get what was damn well coming to me... wouldn't you? (BTW: If you did exactly what I stated above, XPress would display a dialog telling you that another copy of XPress was found with the same serial number, then it would quit. Nothing nasty, just gracefully exits.) As far as Quark requesting you insert original unlocked master diskettes, that is merely to simplify the registration process. If you purchase XPress, and follow the installation instructions, you'll be DTP'ing in less than 10 minutes. Plus, this is the extra bonus guys: XPress uses Apple printer drivers! Yeah, no waiting for your LaserWriter to reinitialize itself when you switch applications! (Sorry, this always annoyed me about PM) hope this clears things up- --eric Eric W. Douglas * ericd@caticsuf.csufresno.edu Dept. of Computer Science * ericd@yosemite.csufresno.edu California State University, Fresno * ez002644@deneb.ucdavis.edu
hp48sx@wuarchive.wustl.edu (HP48SX Archive Maintainer) (06/12/91)
I work for a major danish Apple Center, and I have been out in the field and installed 10 copies of QuarkXPress. I HATE IT. Why do they not at least sell packages that can be installed on any number of machines, and checks how many copies of the same serial number is currently running ? I used a few hours installing this, and filled out quite a lot of copies of their market research forms. (Untill I found out to use spaces). The customer will have to to the final re-installation when the new non- protected discs comes return. AND he must have individual backup of the program for every single machine in the network. No easy reinstallation from the server. Copy protection is good (and fun to break :-) ), but NOT if the user can see or feel it. Neither if it gives many problems to the administrator who often does not have the time to take care of such things. Multi-user license with one serial number per packet is OK. /* BTW: One of out customers broke the protection on Quark before he got the original unprotected version. So it wont help that much */ -- ******************************************************* Povl H. Pedersen hp48sx@wuarchive.wustl.edu HP48sx archive maintainer I live in Denmark, and are responsible for whatever I do. I have no relations to the Washington University. They just donate the necesary CPU-time and diskspace. ******************************************************* -- ******************************************************* Povl H. Pedersen hp48sx@wuarchive.wustl.edu HP48sx archive maintainer
kucharsk@solbourne.com (William Kucharski) (06/13/91)
In article <1991Jun11.192405.23419@wuarchive.wustl.edu> hp48sx@wuarchive.wustl.edu (HP48SX Archive Maintainer) writes: >I used a few hours installing this, and filled out quite a lot of copies >of their market research forms. (Untill I found out to use spaces). >The customer will have to to the final re-installation when the new non- >protected discs comes return. AND he must have individual backup of the >program for every single machine in the network. No easy reinstallation >from the server. Unless you're installing ancient copies of Quark or it's different overseas, this is not true. Once you install Xpress 3.0 you can copy it to any system you want any time you want - no problems, no hassles, they all just have the same serial number and the user's name/company on them. Quark hasn't required you to wait for an unprotected disk since Xpress 2.0. Yes, it is a bit of a hassle to have to retain multiple backup copies, though. >Copy protection is good (and fun to break :-) ), but NOT if the user can >see or feel it. Neither if it gives many problems to the administrator >who often does not have the time to take care of such things. Multi-user >license with one serial number per packet is OK. Quark doesn't work this way, though - they work on a one serial number per user basis. Among other things this allows them to track who's paid for extended support :-) One nice thing about doing things the way they do is that every user gets a copy of the docs. -- | William Kucharski, Solbourne Computer, Inc. | Opinions expressed above | Internet: kucharsk@Solbourne.COM | are MINE alone, not those | uucp: ...!{boulder,sun,uunet}!stan!kucharsk | of Solbourne... | Snail Mail: 1900 Pike Road, Longmont, CO 80501 | "It's Night 9 With D2 Dave!"