franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca (STEVE_____(superboy)) (06/25/91)
Does anyone know of any keyboard interface methods for the
macintosh? Perhaps I am only looking for change, but there are many
advantages over mouse manipulation - Having both would be idea. . . Some
of you may be familiar with CLIM (command line interface (from wuarchive
wustl.edu), and it was succesful, butI could never figure out how to
overcome one major problem. . . Most mac programs have two words or parts
to them, and CLIM (Like msdos) can only handle one. . . Any suggestions for a
program/system file that could handle keyboard input only? Diskcopying,
secotr reading, filecopy, filedelete, and most functions would be a good
option. . . I would be using CLIM right now if it allowed wildcards. ..
Please, no remarks about "duh, why don't you go to an IBM then you weenie!"
Well, I simply feel that it would be to my benefit to be able to
use both techniques. . . (something that replaces/simulates the finder would
be great for certain things...)
thanks in advance for reading/considering this article. . . later
steve
(franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca)
_____________________________________________________________________________Randomizer@cup.portal.com (Aron Fingers Nelson) (06/25/91)
Well, I simply feel that it would be to my benefit to be able to use both techniques. . . (something that replaces/simulates the finder would be great for certain things...) Steve, You may want to try and give Mr. File a try. It's kinda like DiskTop except you can stack commands (like a batch file - only mac like) and have them execute in the background. It also can maintain it's own lists of files/ folders and allow you to copy/paste between them. The file find feature has wildcards which allow you to do the *.* sort of things. Their number: 408-978-9167 the Company SoftWays Aron_Nelson@cup.portal.com
Rick_McCormack@mindlink.bc.ca (Rick McCormack) (06/25/91)
Users of MacTools DeLuxe may want to look at the FileEdit application, along
with Launcher, also part of MacTools. Quoting from the MacTools book: "FileEdit
is a disk and file management program that provides the functionality (viewing,
copying, moving, etc.) of the Macintosh Finder but without its built-in
limitations." Seems like it could easily substitute for the Finder, if one was
pleased with its capabilities.
(Hey, I only found out about it yesterday while scanning the book in the can --
how can you even think I work for CPS? {MY standard disclaimer})
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.feinberg@acsu.buffalo.edu (john a feinberg) (06/25/91)
There is a program called 'Command Line Interface' in the Sumex-Aim archives that's quite interesting. It gives you a DOS-like interface. Very DOS-like. If you're running less then system 7, you can even replace the finder with CLIM (the acronym for the program). John Feinberg SUNY Buffalo
tbd@neuro (Tristan Davies) (06/26/91)
Disclaimer:I realize this probably isn't the right group for this posting, but the thread started here. Pardon my flames, but... Why would you want to replace the finder? It's the heart of the Mac! It's what makes the Mac so fun to use! Et cetera, ad nauseum. Seriously, the reason Macs are so straightforward, IMHO, is because you don't have to type anything in to locate, open, copy, delete, or move documents and programs, which means not having to remember commands which, while sensible once you understand them, take time to learn. So hip-hip-hooray for the finder, and for the intuitive finder replacements like DiskTop, but boo hiss to the idea of replacing the finder with an ms-dos-like interface. Tristan "have you hugged your finder today?" Davies tbd@neuro.duke.edu
stanger@otago.ac.nz (Nigel Stanger) (06/26/91)
In article <22437@duke.cs.duke.edu>, tbd@neuro (Tristan Davies) writes: > Pardon my flames, but... > Why would you want to replace the finder? It's the heart of the Mac! > It's what makes the Mac so fun to use! Et cetera, ad nauseum. > > Seriously, the reason Macs are so straightforward, IMHO, is because > you don't have to type anything in to locate, open, copy, delete, or > move documents and programs, which means not having to remember > commands which, while sensible once you understand them, take time to > learn. So hip-hip-hooray for the finder, and for the intuitive > finder replacements like DiskTop, but boo hiss to the idea of > replacing the finder with an ms-dos-like interface. Well, you know what they say: "Different strokes for different folks." Believe it or not, some people actually *prefer* a command-line! Myself, I would rather see the Finder enhanced with a scripting language (which is supposedly in the works, hooray!). There are some things which you just can't do very easily with a graphical interface, but can do in a few lines in a command language. But all that aside, I still love graphical interfaces! -- See ya Nigel. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Nigel Stanger, Internet: stanger@otago.ac.nz c/o University of Otago, P.O. Box 56, Phone: +64 3 479-8179 Dunedin, NEW ZEALAND. Fax: +64 3 479-8311 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "If I had a quote, I'd be wearing it." -- Bob Dylan ----------------------------------------------------------------------
IO71245@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (06/28/91)
Are any of those programs that provide a command line etc...
like Clim, Mr. File, and Mactools Deluxe..sharewhere or public
domain and if so where can I obtain them? If not how much do they
run in cost? e-mail responses will be fine..
Matt