kevin@kosman.UUCP (Kevin O'Gorman) (06/28/91)
Real bad news. I just got System 7 from BMUG and ran the compatibility tester. It seems I'm gonna have to get a bunch of upgrades I don't really want to pay for. I'm hoping the news isn't really true, so if anyone can shed some light on the following, I would really appreciate it: These are just the ones where it said "Must upgrade"... PageMaker 3.02 Stuffit Deluxe 1.5.1 Aldus FreeHand 2.02 MacDraw II 1.0v1 MacTools Backup 1.1 MacWrite 4.6 Microsoft Works 2.0 PixelPaint 1.1 SuperBoomerang 2.0 All are registered. I must say I'm particularly annoyed about MacDraw and MacWrite, but then I cannot say I'm all that surprised... -- Kevin O'Gorman ( kevin@kosman.UUCP, kevin%kosman.uucp@nrc.com ) voice: 805-984-8042 Vital Computer Systems, 5115 Beachcomber, Oxnard, CA 93035 Non-Disclaimer: my boss is me, and he stands behind everything I say.
Jahnke@brahms.biosci.arizona.edu (Jerome Jahnke) (06/28/91)
In article <1371@kosman.UUCP> kevin@kosman.UUCP (Kevin O'Gorman) writes: >Real bad news. I just got System 7 from BMUG and ran the compatibility >tester. It seems I'm gonna have to get a bunch of upgrades I don't really >want to pay for. > Boy... if money is an issue then don't upgrade to system 7. It is that simple. I just sent off my upgrades checks last week (Thank God for Tax Refunds, and tax breaks for the newly married). I was almost too late for the PM upgrade BTW (I did not realize they had put a limit on how long you can update it.) I had heard one of the problems with getting folks to upgrade to Windows 3 is that there is an incredible amount of "borrowed" software out there. And since it would not work with Windows 3 folks were not upgrading. System 7 might be having a similar effect. But as a programmer, it does not matter too much to me as the folks who are paying for software are the ones who are upgrading to System 7 (because the stuff they have works.) And since this is the case I don't feel I have to support 1) any machine that can't run System 7. 2) Any software platform but system 7. Now if they would just do away with black and white machines my life would again be simple. Sorry, I did not mean to get off track, or imply anything. But most of those things do not work well at all under System 7. So you gotta make the choice, pay for the upgrades, or stay with System 6.0x. And be warned PM does have a deadline for upgrades, I have no Idea what it means if you miss it. Jer,
bgl6000@zeus.tamu.edu (LEMOINE, BRETT GAVIN) (06/28/91)
In article <2828@amethyst.math.arizona.edu>, Jahnke@brahms.biosci.arizona.edu (Jerome Jahnke) writes... >Now if they would just do away with black and >white machines my life woul some of us with black and white machines _are_ using system 7, and saving every other penny to upgrade our machines as soon as possible. not every college student can afford color, but some of us _do_ pay for software, _and_ use b&w... *pththththth* }-----------------------------------------------------------------------> }-IvArch-> Brett G. Lemoine----------------> }-Texas A&M University CSC - Remote Micro Facilities---> }-Internet: bgl6000@zeus.tamu.edu Bitnet: bgl6000@tamzeus-> }-THEnet: zeus::bgl6000 Phonenet: (409) 846 6594--> }-----------------------------------------------------------------------> }---------"My employer has no idea what I'm doing... does yours?"------->
dnsurber@lescsse.jsc.nasa.gov (Douglas Surber) (06/28/91)
In <2828@amethyst.math.arizona.edu> Jahnke@brahms.biosci.arizona.edu (Jerome Jahnke) writes: >Now if they would just do away with black and >white machines my life would again be simple. Your not going to get my black and white tube until you pry it from my cold, dead fingers. :-) But seriously, I am a programmer, and as such I spend my entire day looking at text on my tube. Black and white monitors display much sharper text than color monitors. After spending many hours each day looking at text on both b&w and color monitors, I find that my eyes are much less tired with b&w. I know somebody is going to say that color monitors are just as sharp, so I will disagree with you in advance. First of all the phosphor coating on a b&w monitor is a continuous coating so all of the little white dots bleed together into a smooth even region. On color monitors the phosphor coating is a buch of descrete spots, of three different colors. Each little "white" dot is actually composed of three tiny blobs of phosphor, one red, one green, one blue. When you consider that a period (.) in your average 10 or 12 point font is just one pixel, then it is pretty clear to me that the separate phosphors are easily discernable from normal viewing distances. On a tv this is not as much of a problem since you view it from multiple feet away, but my eyes are about 24 inches from my monitor and from that distance the separate phosphors are visible. Someday when I have a spare $1000 or so I intend to add a color monitor to my Mac II so I can play Tetris in color, but with the new notebook Macs and my car catching on fire, that may not happen for a while. -- Douglas Surber Internet: dsurber@nasamail.nasa.gov Lockheed NASAmail: dsurber/jsc/nasa Houston, Texas Phone: 713-282-6240 Life can be only understood backwards, but it must be lived forwards.
steve@violet.berkeley.edu (Steve Goldfield;232HMB;3-6292;;MF62) (06/28/91)
In article <dnsurber.678117510@node_2204c> dsurber@nasamail.nasa.gov writes: #>In <2828@amethyst.math.arizona.edu> Jahnke@brahms.biosci.arizona.edu (Jerome Jahnke) writes: #> #>>Now if they would just do away with black and #>>white machines my life would again be simple. #> #>Your not going to get my black and white tube until you pry it from my #>cold, dead fingers. :-) #> #>But seriously, I am a programmer, and as such I spend my entire day #>looking at text on my tube. Black and white monitors display much #>sharper text than color monitors. After spending many hours each day #>looking at text on both b&w and color monitors, I find that my eyes #>are much less tired with b&w. There's another issue. I have a 12-inch B/W monitor; my boss has the 13-inch color monitor. I've tried running PageMaker on his monitor. I noticed lines, such as the guide lines, were much harder to see in color. Now it could be that Aldus just chose bad colors (I think they are very light blue and I didn't notice an option to change these colors). I found it was quite a bit easier to work in B/W. I'd say, use color where you absolutely need it. But otherwise it shouldn't be assumed that it is automatically an improvement. Even if it turns out that there is an optimal choice of colors that would be an improvement, few of us have the skills to select that combination of colors (obviously Aldus didn't do so). Color monitors also produce more intense low frequency electromagnetic radiation than B/W monitors, according to the article in MacWorld. Steve Goldfield
peirce@outpost.UUCP (Michael Peirce) (06/29/91)
In article <dnsurber.678117510@node_2204c>, dnsurber@lescsse.jsc.nasa.gov (Douglas Surber) writes: > In <2828@amethyst.math.arizona.edu> Jahnke@brahms.biosci.arizona.edu (Jerome Jahnke) writes: > > I know somebody is going to say that color monitors are just as sharp, > so I will disagree with you in advance. Maybe not quite as sharp, but the Apple RGB monitor is pretty close. This is in contrast with many other color monitors. I was browsing a local computer store (Fry's!) and they had a VGA multisync monitor hooked up to an LC (to provide a bargain system I guess). I was just thinking to my self how much fuzzier it was than I was used to when a DOS jocky wondered up and commented at how crisp he though it was. I guess it shows how spoiled we are with Apple equipment :-) -- Michael Peirce -- outpost!peirce@claris.com -- Peirce Software -- Suite 301, 719 Hibiscus Place -- Macintosh Programming -- San Jose, California 95117 -- & Consulting -- (408) 244-6554, AppleLink: PEIRCE