sjc@cs.purdue.edu (Steve Chapin) (04/25/91)
I requested infromatino on distributed programming environments last week. The response was encourageing; so encouraging that I do not think I should post the 2300+ lines of stuff I got from people. Rather, I will mail copies to those that request them. If you would like a copy of the summary, please contact me sjc@cs.purdue.edu. In a nutshell, there were 2 highly touted systems: Isis and PVM. A few others were mentioned. I would like to publicly apologize to the people in the Hermes group at IBM. I sent them a letter asking for an interpretation of their User Agreement *after* I posted my message, which was improper of me. I got a kind letter from Art Goldberg (included below) explaining that anything I copyright would remain my inetellectual property. Therefore, my objections to Herems were groundless, and I could have avoided wrongfully besmirching IBM and its employees by doing a little research first. Again, I apologize. Here's Art's letter: ======================================================================= From: (Arthur P. Goldberg) <artg@watson.ibm.com> Hi Steve Im a member of the Hermes group at IBM. You posted a message that contained: -- For example, Hermes from IBM is almost ideal. The hangup there is the -- draconian user agreement that states that any "derivative works" -- become the property of IBM and that they can do whatever they please -- with them. I find that odious and would rather implement my own -- system than use theirs under such restrictions. We appreciate your high regard. However, I do not understand the problem you find with our user agreement. Any "derivative works" you would create would presumably have your copyright. Therefore IBM could not do "whatever it pleased" with them. What do you want to do that you feel unable to do under this agreement? Arthur artg@watson.ibm.com user agreement follows: -- (C) Copyright International Business Machines Corporation 23 January -- 1990. All Rights Reserved. -- -- See the file USERAGREEMENT distributed with this software for full -- terms and conditions of use. 1. COPYRIGHT Program Name: Hermes (C) Copyright International Business Machines Corporation 23 January 1990. All Rights Reserved. 2. RESEARCH SOFTWARE DISCLAIMER As experimental, research software, this program is provided free of charge on an "as is" basis without warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, including but not limited to implied warranties of merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose. IBM does not warrant that the functions contained in this program will meet the user's requirements or that the operation of this program will be uninterrupted or error-free. 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Copies of these modifications should be sent to: SOFTWARE@YKTVMV.BITNET Hermes@IBM.Com ======================================================================= ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Steve Chapin domain: sjc@cs.purdue.edu UUCP: ...!purdue!sjc your is possessive, you're == you are, its is possessive, it's == it is their is possessive, there is a place, they're == they are ect. is meaningless, etc. == et cetera, let's == let us, lets == allows loose == set free, lose == misplace, fail to win, gain, or obtain to == direction or action, two == 2, too == also, excessively ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- =========================== MODERATOR ============================== Steve Stevenson {steve,fpst}@hubcap.clemson.edu Department of Computer Science, comp.parallel Clemson University, Clemson, SC 29634-1906 (803)656-5880.mabell