[net.cse] : Anecdotes

parnass@ihuxf.UUCP (11/04/83)

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       Recent discussion in the	news media of "the  crisis  in	our
       schools"	  is  interesting.   While  pondering  this  topic,
       glimpses	of my own educational experience come to mind1.	  I
       graduated from high school in 1970.

       Some positive memories:

	  o+ A short, elderly woman  taught  Analytic  Geometry	and
	    Calculus  in 11th and 12th grades.	Although she rarely
	    cracked a smile, this gray haired dynamo  inspired	her
	    students.	Every  class  was something to look forward
	    to.	 I  loved  her	quizzes,  they	were  like  solving
	    mysteries.	 My  questions	were  always  answered with
	    patience, and in sufficient	detail.	 If she	didn't know
	    the	 answer,  she  said  so,  but  did it in a way that
	    showed her interest	in finding out.

	  o+ My high  school  drafting  teacher	showed	a  personal
	    interest  in  the  future  of  his students.  Each week
	    found this fellow bringing in some marvelously  crafted
	    mechanism that we could all	explore	together.


       Some negative memories:

	  o+ A 4th grade	teacher	assigned the class a  report  on  a
	    topic of our choosing.  I spent hours reading about	the
	    structure of flowers, then writing	my  report.   After
	    reading  my	 report, she walked up to my desk, smiling,
	    looking real friendly and  understanding.	She  asked,
	    "Oh,  Bob, are you interested in flowers?" I responsed,
	    "No, but I didn't  know  anything  about  flowers,	and
	    there seemed to be a lot written about them." Her smile
	    became a frown.  My	report received	 a  'D'.   She	had
	    interpreted	 my  response  to  mean	that I selected	the
	    topic because it was easy to write	about.	 This  left
	    one	angry, confused	10 year	old!

	  o+ A junior high school English teacher was convinced that
	    my	paper on "The History of American Lexicography"	was
	    just TOO  good  to	be  original.	Her  unfounded	and
	    incorrect	accusation   of	  plagiarism  was  used	 as
	    justification for a	low grade.  What's a kid to do?



       __________

	1. The schools involved	are part of the	Westwood (N.J.)
	   Public School System.












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	  o+ A 7th grade	science	teacher	insisted that sunspots were
	    ALWAYS  detrimental	 to radio transmissions.  That con-
	    tradicted my own observations.  I had studied this sub-
	    ject, out of my own	curiosity, and presented references
	    addressing this topic.  Her	response:  "Oh,	 those	are
	    JUST MAGAZINES"2 End of discussion.	 I  stopped  asking
	    questions in science class.

	  o+ In 1968, my	10th grade Algebra teacher actually devoted
	    over  33%  of  class time to discussions of	the Vietnam
	    war.  It wasn't as if the war concerned the	students to
	    such  a  degree  that they just had	to get it off their
	    chests ... these discussions were ALWAYS  initiated	 by
	    the	teacher3.  I wanted to learn Algebra.

	  o+ My high school Physics teacher, entrusted with  educat-
	    ing	 college  bound	students, answered a question about
	    wave propagation with the snide retort:

	     "Like, man, why is	the sky	blue? Who knows?"

	    This same teacher would also respond  to  questions	 by
	    focusing   class   attention  on  some  aspect  of	the
	    questioner's appearance ("Hey, what	are you, a pumpkin?
	    I  mean  with  that	orange shirt and black pants...") I
	    received a 'C' in Physics that  year  as  a	 reward	 my
	    curiosity4.	 I  stopped  asking  questions	in  Physics
	    class.


       By contrast, my undergraduate education,	at a small  private
       college5, was a truly enjoyable,	satisfying experience.	The
       competence  of  the  professors and instructors was exceeded
       only by their ability to	stimulate students.  The professors
       spoke perfect English,  and  were  quite	 eloquent6.   Sure,


       __________

	2. Perhaps we computer scientist types are kidding
	   ourselves by	reading	"CACM",	"Computer", etc. :-)

	3. The teacher was a young man of draft	age.

	4. I was a good	Physics	and Math student, getting straight
	   A's in both subjects	during college and graduate school.

	5. Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester,
	   Massachusetts.

	6. Graduate school, at Purdue, was a different story.











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       there were "screw" exams	and some real bores, but  nothing's
       perfect.

       One unpleasant experience does stand out	in my mind:

	    I had just completed a large software package  to  plot
	    histograms	(bar  graphs)  for  my CS201 course and	was
	    eager to use this neat 700	line  FORTRAN  program	for
	    something practical.

	    A professor	gave out a homework assignment	in  Statis-
	    tics  class.   The	details	escape me.  To satisfy this
	    assignment,	the other students analyzed baseball scores
	    and	 submitted  a  single  page of numbers.	 Being very
	    inspired by	the problem, I conducted a REAL	 experiment
	    and	 submitted  a  complete	 report, along with several
	    histograms produced	my FORTRAN package.

	    To my amazement, my	efforts	earned a 'C'.  When I asked
	    about  this,  the  professor expressed doubt that I	had
	    really performed the experiment.  He thought the histo-
	    grams had been produced by some commercial package!	 He
	    couldn't believe,  at  first,  that	 someone  would	 be
	    interested	in  a  simple  homework	 assignment  to	the
	    extent of doing extra work!	 My assignment	was  kicked
	    up	2 grades after I showed	him the	source code listing
	    for	the histogram package.

       What is my  point?   This  submission  is  not  intended	 to
       express	one.  Future discussions in this area are likely to
       foment some suggestions.

       Does anyone else	have interesting anecdotes about the  "edu-
       cational	experience?"



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Robert S. Parnass, AT&T Bell Laboratories, ihnp4!ihuxf!parnass (312)979-5760 

rene@umcp-cs.UUCP (11/07/83)

I think everyone has unpleasant memories of High School (and Junior
High, etc) (except for my friend who had the luck to attend an open
classroom high school). My worst memory is of an Elementary Analysis
teacher. At the time I had a choice between taking Advanced Placement
History and Triganalysis (trigonometry and elementary analysis) or
Elementary Analysis (a more advance math class - I'd already had
trigonmetry) and regular history. I was put in AP history, but I
decided that the advanced math was more important, so (against all
precedent) I managed to change classes (and I'd been getting an easy
"A" in history, too). However, on the first day I was there, the
teacher, Mrs. Burns, (she deserves to have her name mentioned!) gave
us a few new theorems, proved one by deduction and asked us to prove
the rest by induction (these methods had been fleetingly mentioned in
the same class). She then left for most of the class. The next class
when I asked a question, she replied "I'm not going to come down to
your level, you have to come up to mine!" I don't remember what I
asked, but I don't think it deserved that answer. Anyway, I stormed to
the back of the class (I always sit in front), and about 15 min. later
left (I NEVER left class early, or cut class). And again, despite all
precedence, I kicked and screamed and got switched BACK into
triganalysis. (and also to AP history, with a teacher bigoted against
everyone, and who had the class so cowed that when we switched
teachers the next semester, it took her half the semester to get
people to volunteer to speak in class.)
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fmc@pyuxqq.UUCP (11/07/83)

My own favorite "horror" story of public school occurred in 8 th grade:
In a science class, I always got 100% on the tests, I knew the material.
(Whether it was simple or I am smart I won't speculate at this late date).
Anyway, even tho I fully knew the material, as demonstrated by test scores,
the teach insisted that I do the homework assignments. I stubbornly
refused, feeling it was a waste of time.  As an analogy, whats the point
of writing the multiplication tables 50 times if you have already
memorized them?  Anyway, the upshot was that the teach insisted that
the office call my parent(s) into school for a "talk".

ksh@cbosgd.UUCP (11/08/83)

I had two particularly trying classes in high school.  The first
was a Physics class.  I learned absolutely nothing after sitting
for a whole year in this class.  Women were not permitted to do
ANY of the experiments.  All tests were 'group' tests - meaning you
could walk around the room and ask anyone if they knew the answer.
Needless to say, everyone got the same grade on every test.  Also,
every Friday was 'Donut Day' - several guys would go out and bring
back donuts, and we would spend the whole class eating them.
All women in the class got an "A".  

The other class was my half-year computer science class.  We had
our own keypunch, and twice a week our instructor would take our
decks of cards over to the university to be run on their computer.
This class supposedly taught us FORTRAN - and was taught by a
general math teacher who knew absolutely nothing about computer
science.  The biggest joke was the final exam.  He brought us each
a deck of about 200 punched cards - he never told us what the
program was supposed to do - he shuffled the cards, and then gave
us 30 minutes to put them in the right order.  I can't remember the
exact grading, but it was something like - 10 cards or more out of
order and you got an F, 7-9 a D, 5 or 6 a C, 3 or 4 a B, and only
1 or 2 an A.  NOONE PASSED.

But for the most part, my high school education was pretty good,
mostly thanks to the patience and persistence of a very talented
Math teacher.

mcg@aat.UUCP (11/08/83)

As counterpoint to the previous high-schools stories, I must point
out that I once got revenge on a physics teacher in a quite effective
way. The end of the term had arrived, and the term final was going to
be administered, and the teacher let slip that myself and a friend
of mine had enough credits that we didn'tneed to pass the final in
order to preserve our A's in the class, but when we protested and
threatened to miss the final, he insisted that we take it.

He was rather annoyed then, when he graded our test and discovered
that we had attributed every known physical phenomenon (Gravitation,
Electromagnetism, etc) to Maxwell's Demon!