[net.cse] segregating male and female

colonel@gloria.UUCP (George Sicherman) (01/06/85)

["The Marines are looking for a few good men.  But so are the women."]

> Come on now.  As far as I have seen so far, the women in most CSE classes
> that I have either taught or given have been more enthusiastic then the men.
> There is a large problem (that I used to run into in math classes) that the
> teachers will ignore the women, giving more of their attention to the men,
> and thus finally discouraging the women.

Another observation: women students have asked me to assign them to all-
woman programming teams - to forestall "enthusiasms" of the wrong sort.
-- 
Col. G. L. Sicherman
...seismo!rochester!rocksanne!rocksvax!sunybcs!gloria!colonel

cuccia@ucbvax.ARPA (Nick Cuccia) (01/14/85)

> ["The Marines are looking for a few good men.  But so are the women."]
> 
> > Come on now.  As far as I have seen so far, the women in most CSE classes
> > that I have either taught or given have been more enthusiastic then the men.
> > There is a large problem (that I used to run into in math classes) that the
> > teachers will ignore the women, giving more of their attention to the men,
> > and thus finally discouraging the women.
> 
> Another observation: women students have asked me to assign them to all-
> woman programming teams - to forestall "enthusiasms" of the wrong sort.
> -- 
> Col. G. L. Sicherman

After muddling through the upper-division data structures class here
at Cal, I found many of the women to be very enthusiastic about the
material.  This was interesting, since the instructor seemed to be
doing his best to dampen _everybody's_ enthusiasm.  His treatment of
the women in the class bordered on being obscene.  He seemed to feel
that they simply didn't belong in the class/major/school.

--Nick Cuccia
--ucbvax!cuccia
--cuccia%ucbmiro@Berkeley