colonel@gloria.UUCP (George Sicherman) (01/06/85)
["The Marines are looking for a few good men. But so are the women."] > Come on now. As far as I have seen so far, the women in most CSE classes > that I have either taught or given have been more enthusiastic then the men. > There is a large problem (that I used to run into in math classes) that the > teachers will ignore the women, giving more of their attention to the men, > and thus finally discouraging the women. Another observation: women students have asked me to assign them to all- woman programming teams - to forestall "enthusiasms" of the wrong sort. -- Col. G. L. Sicherman ...seismo!rochester!rocksanne!rocksvax!sunybcs!gloria!colonel
cuccia@ucbvax.ARPA (Nick Cuccia) (01/14/85)
> ["The Marines are looking for a few good men. But so are the women."] > > > Come on now. As far as I have seen so far, the women in most CSE classes > > that I have either taught or given have been more enthusiastic then the men. > > There is a large problem (that I used to run into in math classes) that the > > teachers will ignore the women, giving more of their attention to the men, > > and thus finally discouraging the women. > > Another observation: women students have asked me to assign them to all- > woman programming teams - to forestall "enthusiasms" of the wrong sort. > -- > Col. G. L. Sicherman After muddling through the upper-division data structures class here at Cal, I found many of the women to be very enthusiastic about the material. This was interesting, since the instructor seemed to be doing his best to dampen _everybody's_ enthusiasm. His treatment of the women in the class bordered on being obscene. He seemed to feel that they simply didn't belong in the class/major/school. --Nick Cuccia --ucbvax!cuccia --cuccia%ucbmiro@Berkeley