cobb@NBS-VMS@sri-unix (06/23/82)
The following is fuzzily remembered information from an unknown source, but for what it's worth: I seem to remember that the shuttle computers (five per shuttle, built by IBM) were originally designed for Hughes to use in their sooper-dooper radar/fire-control system for the F-15 fighter plane. The design was frozen in 1973. They probably use MSI TTL technology, which is old and grundgy but has proven reliable in practice, especially when built to MIL specs. EXIT INFO MODE; ENTER FLAME MODE: A partnership between NASA and the military isn't necessarily such a bad thing. After all, we've had one 'de facto' for the last twenty years, and it hasn't hurt us that much. If you doubt that, consider: -well over half the astronauts (at least, up 'til the current crop) started out as military jet jocks... -a great deal of NASA's hardware is derived from military equipment (examples: the Shuttle computers \and/ the software reliability methodology for them; NASA's boosters, which are all derived from ICBM's (Redstone, Atlas, and Titan \are/ ICBM's); also the space suits, the tracking stations, etc... -there is stuff out there which needs protecting. Losing a bunch of comsats would play hell with domestic communications. Losing some of our recon or early-warning satellites would undoubtedly put the military on red alert. While the Soviets can't (yet) shoot down a group of satellites at once, they are getting better at it. And think what a beautiful target a space factory or colony would make for some random terrorist! No, I'm not trying to spread the Cold War into space. But the military-NASA partnership has been beneficial to both sides in the past; the reflexive distaste that this list seems to have for the military is a little strange. No matter how fast and how far the pioneers moved west in the last century, there always came a time when they yelled for the cavalry, and were damned glad the cavalry was right behind them. We will be (we hope to be) building some big, expensive, and useful installations in space in the next few years, and there will undoubtedly be those who want to take them away from us. It doesn't make sense to go out unprotected. Sorry for flaming so much, Stewart