[net.space] Gravitational propagation and the general theory

steve@sri-unix (07/29/82)

One time I went down to one of our local universities and dug up a
PH.D candidate in physics and asked him, in a much more complex fashion,
the question asked by whuxlb!ech (that is, what is the propagation delay of
gravity).

The answer was also complicated, but it went something like this:

The question you ask is meaningless. How can body A measure his response
to what body B is doing? For any given observed behavior at body A there
are an infinite number of places in the universe that body B could be that
could cause the effects.

Yes (I responded), but we are not dealing with an infinite number of places,
but rather the end points of a well defined line. When body B goes from
one place to another, then what is the precise observed effect at body A
when B reaches its end point? How much longer does the change in effect
occur at A when B reaches his end point?

(he responded) Now you are falling into another trap. There is no such
thing as "simultaneity" in a relativistic universe. To ask any question
about "the same time at two different places" is meaningless.

And so on...

This was all with respect to the General theory of relativity, which has
apparently fallen into ill-repute in recent years (due to its conflicts
with quantum theory).

Around and around I went with him, and every question I asked came down to
"That is meaningless - the effects you are looking for either do not exist
or cannot be measured."

Sigh.....

		Steve Den Beste
		Tektronix