[net.space] Gravitational attraction and shifts

Arpanet.Guest@CMU-10A@sri-unix (07/30/82)

Concerning the question of objects A and B, and the time it takes
B to realise that A is gone, consider the following (lightly though!)

	Given that recently (50+ years) we have compiled some
	accurate astronomical data, does it not follow that 
	we could take a known event of stellar proportions such
	as a nova or supernova and track it out to it's
	corresponding actions on the red/blue shift of a 
	nearby star and thus measure the time delay?
		Since the distance to nova A is known,
	and the distance to star B is known, and thus
	the distance between them, the earth-object
	times are known and thus of no importance, and
	the object-object time becomes the control.
		If the change is very slight, which
	is very likely, do we have a means of accurate
	measurement? Would the space telescope provide
	the nessecary level of discretion?

This is my first attempt at net communication, and I can only hope
that somehow it will get through.
			Greg Maples
			n900gs0t@cmua
			gmm@mit-mc,ai

REM@MIT-MC@sri-unix (08/02/82)

From: Robert Elton Maas <REM at MIT-MC>
It is my understanding that most supernovas are rather symmetrical.
Since an object that is symmetric has the same gravitational force at
a given distance from its center of mass regardless of the radial
distribution of the mass, providing the distance is greater than the
radius of the object (distance from center to furthest part of its
mass), a supernova would cause no gravitational effect on another
object until after the outer parts of the star that exploded had
passed the other object, by which time that object would be knocked
about by physical impact, masking the change in gravitational force.

An asymmetrical explosion would cause a net change in gravitational
force at distances beyond the radius of the explosion, but computing
just what this change might be as we look at a 2-dimensional telescope
image of the supernova from a distance of many light years, would be
too difficult. We might see the gravitational effect on the other
object and not know whether our observed supernova did it or not
(perhaps a dark star collided with it, perhaps some other
gravitational wave did it, ...). I doubt we can predict the
gravitational change accurately enough to confirm or refute it by our
observations of that other object.