[comp.dcom.sys.cisco] Status of 8.2

bergum@cim-tune.honeywell.com (Dave Bergum) (02/05/91)

Is anyone running 8.2(1)?  Any serious problems?

I got some CSC/3 upgrade boards with 8.2 roms, but have not heard any
reports on performance/problems with 8.2 yet.  Some one told me it
might be good to wait for the next maintenance upgrade.

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hayes@apple.com (02/05/91)

We are using 8.2(1) and are pretty happy.  We are primarily an
AppleTalk Phase II and TCP/IP shop, and only found one minor
AppleTalk Phase II problem that will be corrected in 8.2(2) due
out real-soon-now.

Perhaps someone else could comment on XNS/Novell/Apollo/Banyan Vines?

-Jim Hayes, Apple Computer, Inc.

asp@uunet.uu.net (Andrew Partan) (02/05/91)

8.2(3) is supposed to be coming out in approx 2 weeks or so to fix some
problems with some of the odder/newer protocols (which ones I don't
remember - I'm not running them - but they were not IP, XNS, or OSI).
The IP support seems to be solid - we have been running 8.2(1) for
about 3 weeks here with no problems, and ran it on an IGS/R that we had
at the terminal room at Usenix in Dallas with no problems.
	--asp@uunet.uu.net (Andrew Partan)

long@nic.near.net (Daniel Long) (02/05/91)

	From: Dave Bergum <bergum@cim-tune.honeywell.com>
	Subject: Status of 8.2(1)
	Date: Mon, 04 Feb 91 11:24:06 CST

	Is anyone running 8.2(1)?  Any serious problems?

	I got some CSC/3 upgrade boards with 8.2 roms, but have not heard any
	reports on performance/problems with 8.2 yet.  Some one told me it
	might be good to wait for the next maintenance upgrade.

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Aside from the box crashing when you use the "shutdown" command, we
haven't had any problems.

Dan

louie@sayshell.umd.edu (Louis A. Mamakos) (02/05/91)

We've been having some Novell problems with 8.2(1), specifically with the
Novell route-cache fast switching stuff that was just added.  If you do
Novell, I'd recommend waiting for the maintenance release.

On the other hand, we've had absolutely no problems with IP at all.


louie

barmar@think.com (Barry Margolin) (02/05/91)

I've had a few crashes while configuring access list changes via the
network (a packet comes in while the access list data structures are in an
intermediate state); I don't know whether this is a new problem with 8.2,
but I don't think it ever hit me before.

I also had a few problems when I tried to use the new "established" option
to TCP extended access lists, but I haven't been able to reproduce them.

For normal operation as an IP and Appletalk router, it seems to be working
fine.
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bri@jake.tmc.edu (Brian Holmes) (02/05/91)

Is 8.2 shipping?  Is it available for upgrades yet?
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RAF@CU.NIH.GOV (Roger Fajman) (02/06/91)

> We are using 8.2(1) and are pretty happy.  We are primarily an
> AppleTalk Phase II and TCP/IP shop, and only found one minor
> AppleTalk Phase II problem that will be corrected in 8.2(2) due
> out real-soon-now.

I would appreciate hearing what that problem is, as we are about to try
Appletalk routing.

RAF@CU.NIH.GOV (Roger Fajman) (02/06/91)

> Is anyone running 8.2(1)?  Any serious problems?
>
> I got some CSC/3 upgrade boards with 8.2 roms, but have not heard any
> reports on performance/problems with 8.2 yet.  Some one told me it
> might be good to wait for the next maintenance upgrade.

We've had a problem with XNS RIP not properly recognizing that serial
lines are down.  The route still exists in the routing table as
directly connected, although SHOW INTERFACE correctly says the line is
down.  This probably also exists in 8.1.  cisco thinks that they have a
fix.

There's also the need to disable XNS fast switching to prevent the
router from crashing periodically.  This is supposed to be fixed in the
next maintenance update.

So, yes, if you don't need 8.2 features right away, it's a good idea to
wait a while.  But we are using 8.2(1) on a number of routers and it
fixed some 8.1 problems and added some features that were important to
us.

Roger Fajman                                   Telephone:  +1 301 402 1246
National Institutes of Health                  BITNET:     RAF@NIHCU
Bethesda, Maryland, USA                        Internet:   RAF@CU.NIH.GOV

ralls@cisco.com (02/08/91)

>We've had a problem with XNS RIP not properly recognizing that serial
>lines are down.  The route still exists in the routing table as
>directly connected, although SHOW INTERFACE correctly says the line is
>down.  This probably also exists in 8.1.  cisco thinks that they have a
>fix.

I don't know of any such problem. There *was* a problem (only in 8.2)
where if a directly connected network went down and the route was
deleted, when that directly connected network came back the entry
in the routing table would be incorrect. This could be repaired
by removing then adding the network i.e. "no xns net <n>"
, "xns net <n>".

This would only happen if a directly connected network was down
long enough to be deleted. The directly connected routes age out
just like other routes so it takes a few minutes for them to be
removed. (This is differant from 8.1 where directly connected routes
were not removed at all.)

If this is not the problem you are refering to please let me know
because I will need to look into it.

Vicki Ralls
cisco Engineering

msmith@crc.ac.uk (Mike Smith x3297) (02/20/91)

I'm not sure if this is an 8.2(1) problem or if it is a hangover of an older 
one.  We've just taken delivery of an AGS which we intend to use as an X25
switch as well as an IP router.  Since we're in the UK on the Janet network
we use X25 services a lot.  The Coloured Books software which Janet runs
uses the X25 Fast select feature when initiating connections.  Unfortunately
the cisco seems to map the Fast select request to a Reverse charge request
when switching X25.  The receiving end refuses the reverse charge and so the
call fails.  Is anyone out there using a cisco router for X25 switching with
Fast select requests?  Are you having any problems?  Do you have any advice?

Mike

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