[comp.dcom.sys.cisco] cisco in general

u4b08@lfkw2.bgm.link.com (David Cappello) (06/19/91)

Hello all, I need some help and info.  We have a large network with about
11-14 different nets.  Our problem today is the fact that they are all
bridged.  We need a router! we have about 600+ nodes and the bridges,
well they work but not that well - sometimes. Ohh, we have a whole bunch
of protocols TCP/IP, DEC, XNS, NBP, Ethertalk and IPX.  TCP/IP is what
most of our traffic is on our nets.  We have 99.99% picked CISCO (AGS+)
as the router to go with but I keep hearing.... how SLOW it gets when 
you start to route the different protocols.  Is there any truth in this
???????  I have talked to CISCO and other vendors about this, now I would
like to hear what the "real" world has to say.  We want to route 
the 11-14 nets and then in the future go with an FDDI backbone with a 
bunch of routers.

thanx
David Cappello
Network Administrator
CAE-Link Fligh Corp.
u4b08@bgm.link.com

dana@thinman.cray.com (Dana Dawson) (06/21/91)

> Hello all, I need some help and info.  We have a large network with about
> 11-14 different nets.  Our problem today is the fact that they are all
> bridged.  We need a router! we have about 600+ nodes and the bridges,
> well they work but not that well - sometimes. Ohh, we have a whole bunch
> of protocols TCP/IP, DEC, XNS, NBP, Ethertalk and IPX.  TCP/IP is what
> most of our traffic is on our nets.  We have 99.99% picked CISCO (AGS+)
> as the router to go with but I keep hearing.... how SLOW it gets when 
> you start to route the different protocols.  Is there any truth in this
> ???????  I have talked to CISCO and other vendors about this, now I would
> like to hear what the "real" world has to say.  We want to route 
> the 11-14 nets and then in the future go with an FDDI backbone with a 
> bunch of routers.
> 
> thanx
> David Cappello
> Network Administrator
> CAE-Link Fligh Corp.
> u4b08@bgm.link.com
> 

We have many (60 - 70) cisco routers, mostly AGS, but some AGS+, also running
several different protocols (most, if not all of the ones you've mentioned,
and perhaps a few you haven't), and we haven't noticed any of our routers
being slow.  We have some of our busier AGS routers run low on memory a few
times, but by reorganizing things a bit, we've gotten around those problems.
You shouldn't have any memory problems with and AGS+.  We are also running
a couple FDDI nets with several different vedors' gear, and the ciscos seem
as solid as any of them (meaning we've gone through similar amounts of
"growing pains" with the ciscos as with the other equipment as far as FDDI
is concerned).  If you were to decide on cisco, I doubt you would have any
regrets, and I'm sure you would be pleased with their support.

Dana J. Dawson
Manager, Internetworking Group
Cray Research, Inc.
(612) 683-3056
dana@cray.com

schoff@psi.com (Martin Lee Schoffstall) (06/21/91)

David,

The cheapest cisco in the world (the IGS) can keep a T1 full
in routing mode.  PSINet, most of the regional networks, and
many enterprise networks are pushing LOTS of traffic very
very "fast".  Some of them even have on line numbers where you
can see that yourself, over months if not years of traffic.
Send me a private message if you want to see psi's SNMP stats
for cisco's which are available via anonymous ftp.

Marty
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 Hello all, I need some help and info.  We have a large network with about
 11-14 different nets.  Our problem today is the fact that they are all
 bridged.  We need a router! we have about 600+ nodes and the bridges,
 well they work but not that well - sometimes. Ohh, we have a whole bunch
 of protocols TCP/IP, DEC, XNS, NBP, Ethertalk and IPX.  TCP/IP is what
 most of our traffic is on our nets.  We have 99.99% picked CISCO (AGS+)
 as the router to go with but I keep hearing.... how SLOW it gets when 
 you start to route the different protocols.  Is there any truth in this
 ???????  I have talked to CISCO and other vendors about this, now I would
 like to hear what the "real" world has to say.  We want to route 
 the 11-14 nets and then in the future go with an FDDI backbone with a 
 bunch of routers.
 
 thanx
 David Cappello
 Network Administrator
 CAE-Link Fligh Corp.
 u4b08@bgm.link.com