[net.space] Number of civilizations per galaxy

WMARTIN@OFFICE-8@sri-unix (10/29/82)

From: WMartin at Office-8 (Will Martin)
In reference to the discussion of Sagan's formula, I just heard
an NPR Journal item (National Public Radio, aired locally on 28
Oct 82) which was an interview with James Michener regarding his
new book, "Space".  In this interview, he talked about the same
sort of formula that was printed here.  Of course, since this was
radio, there was no detail, but a couple of the comments were:

1. Binary and multiple star systems are excluded, as they are
unlikely to have habitable planets.  (I can see logic in this;
planets in such systems are likely to be gobbled up by one of the
stars, or be in eccentric orbits which cause wide variations in
heat, or just receive too much radiation from all those suns.)
That would make "Fp" much less than "~1".

2. End result was 15 current intelligent civilizations per
galaxy.

I don't have any particular emotional attachment to this result,
I'm just reporting it as it is appropriate to the current
discussion.

It loks like Michener's "Space" might be worth reading...

Will

CSvax:Physics:els (11/02/82)

    Logic doesn't quite provide the right answer.  Binaries in which either,
1: the primary and secondary are far apart (Alpha Cent., for example) ,or
2: the primary and secondary are very close (grazing, or nearly so),  have
appriciable regions where there could be stable planetary orbits.


                             els[Eric Strobel]
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