[comp.sys.apple2] ShrinkIt 3.0

nicholaA@batman.moravian.EDU (Andy Nicholas) (03/17/90)

Well, at long last, I can FINALLY announce the release date for ShrinkIt 3.0:

10PM-MONDAY, MARCH 26, 1990.

Hooooooo ray.

andy

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nicholaA@batman.moravian.EDU (Andy Nicholas) (03/17/90)

In article <1238@batman.moravian.EDU>, nicholaA@batman.moravian.EDU (Andy Nicholas) writes:

> Well, at long last, I can FINALLY announce the release date for ShrinkIt 3.0:
> 
> 10PM-MONDAY, MARCH 26, 1990.

Eastern Standard Time since I live on the east-coast... <grin>

andy

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acct069@carroll1.cc.edu (Ron) (03/19/90)

In article <1239@batman.moravian.EDU> nicholaA@batman.moravian.EDU (Andy Nicholas) writes:
> Well, at long last, I can FINALLY announce the release date for ShrinkIt 3.0:
> 
> 10PM-MONDAY, MARCH 26, 1990.
>
>Eastern Standard Time since I live on the east-coast... <grin>
>
>andy
>
Where can we (the general population) get a copy?  Will it be distributed
on the A2-Central disk?  How about "comp.binaries.apple2"?

Thanks alot, great job Andy!

Ron
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fadden@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Andy McFadden) (03/19/90)

In article <1238@batman.moravian.EDU> nicholaA@batman.moravian.EDU (Andy Nicholas) writes:
>Well, at long last, I can FINALLY announce the release date for ShrinkIt 3.0:
>
>10PM-MONDAY, MARCH 26, 1990.
>
>Hooooooo ray.

>andy

This brings up some interesting problems.

NuLib as distributed does not handle some minor changes to the NuFX format.
In fact, due to a slight misunderstanding on my part, it doesn't handle
GS/ShrinkIt archives which follow the original NuFX format.

What I'm trying to say is, NuLib v2.1 ain't gonna work with ShrinkIt v3.0
or GS/ShrinkIt.

NuLib v2.2 fixes the misunderstanding, but I haven't updated it to handle
some new stuff with filenames (which turns out to be a very fatal problem,
due to some weird design decisions on my part).

While I'd like to distribute an update, I'm a little nervous about it right
now after the flak over NuPak.  I sent a letter to Mr. Thompson on Thursday
night, but haven't received a response yet.

If NuPak is indeed my code in large part, then it will fail miserably on
GS/ShrinkIt and ShrinkIt v3.0 archives (and from what I've heard, it does).
The question running through my mind is, do I want to help Mr. Thompson
make money off of my efforts by distributing an udpate?  On the other hand,
is not updating NuLib fair to the people who use it legitimately?

Sigh.

At any rate, I would like to emphasize that I have NOT spoken to
Mr. Thompson yet, and I do NOT know whether or not he actually used my
code.  In this vein, I would appreciate it if somebody with a copy could
send it and the documentation to me (ShrinkIt+BinSCII format).  I would also
appreciate it if somebody who knows him could let him know that I'm trying
to contact him (maybe something ate my mail).

One more week to Spring Break...


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rhood@pro-gsplus.cts.com (Robert Hood) (03/19/90)

In-Reply-To: message from nicholaA@batman.moravian.EDU

Why 10pm on 3/26?  And how can I get a copy?  (is it possible to get a copy
via ProLine networking?)  :)

nicholaA@batman.moravian.EDU (Andy Nicholas) (03/19/90)

In article <1329@carroll1.cc.edu>, acct069@carroll1.cc.edu (Ron) writes:

>> 10PM-MONDAY, MARCH 26, 1990.
>>Eastern Standard Time since I live on the east-coast... <grin>

> Where can we (the general population) get a copy?  Will it be distributed
> on the A2-Central disk?  How about "comp.binaries.apple2"?

It will probably be distributed on the a2-central disk... I have to talk to
them about that, though... I'll post it to comp.binaries.apple2 myself when
it goes out... probably an hour ahead of time so that it will show up around
10pm at your site.  It'll be simultaneously available on genie, america online,
compuserve, and bix at about 10pm... I've talked to their librarians and
they're going to cooperate on this.  :-)

BTW -- everyone please realize that ShrinkIt 3.0 is *NOT* GS/ShrinkIt 1.0,
       ShrinkIt 3.0 is merely a simple rewrite of ShrinkIt 2.1... ;)

> Ron

andy

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nicholaA@batman.moravian.EDU (Andy Nicholas) (03/20/90)

In article <1877@crash.cts.com>, rhood@pro-gsplus.cts.com (Robert Hood) writes:

> Why 10pm on 3/26?  And how can I get a copy?  (is it possible to get a copy
> via ProLine networking?)  :)

No, I'm going to hold the program hostage (even though it's freeware) and
will force everyone to drive to my house in maryland over spring break to
get a copy.  If you arrive before I do, or after I'm gone, well, too bad.
The world will simultaneously end on 10-PM EST on 3/26 also.  The Great
Pepsi bottle sitting in my fridge in the lab has decreed it so.

All hail The Great Pepsi...

andy, Leader of the newly formed religious order dedicated to human fulfillment
      in terms of rye bread, bologna & swiss, and The Great Pepsi.

      Or, maybe, just maybe I can rig it so that my transporter chief beams
      each and every one of you a copy of ShrinkIt 3.0 on at precisely the
      right time.

Robert: Wait until sometime on tuesday.  If it's not right in front of you,
        go hunt a little... you'll probably find a copy.

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lmb7421@ultb.isc.rit.edu (Les Barstow: Phoenix) (03/22/90)

In article <1245@batman.moravian.EDU> nicholaA@batman.moravian.EDU (Andy Nicholas) writes:
>
>No, I'm going to hold the program hostage (even though it's freeware) and
>will force everyone to drive to my house in maryland over spring break to
>get a copy.  If you arrive before I do, or after I'm gone, well, too bad.
>The world will simultaneously end on 10-PM EST on 3/26 also.  The Great
>Pepsi bottle sitting in my fridge in the lab has decreed it so.

Road Trip!!!!

PS I don't believe in Pepsi.

And what's this about the state of developing for the IIGS to change
soon?  I haven't seen any announcements, and it's time... Please, fill
us in.

Les Barstow

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jerryn@pro-europa.cts.com (Jerry Norris) (03/22/90)

In-Reply-To: message from nicholaA@batman.moravian.EDU

Does this mean that you're allowing the use of a mouse now?

BTW, can someone tell me if Binscii can be used by a //e?  Also, how does one
go about using this stuff?
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nicholaA@batman.moravian.EDU (Andy Nicholas) (03/23/90)

In article <1913@crash.cts.com>, jerryn@pro-europa.cts.com (Jerry Norris)
writes:

> Does this mean that you're allowing the use of a mouse now?

No, actually, I'm not.  I considered that keeping the program single-load and
adding as many features into it as possible was much more important than
mouse support.  if i add mouse stuff, i want to do it right, and that will
require overlays... i'll get around to it eventually, just not now in 3.0

Then again, if you have a gs this won't be a bother...

andy

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jerryn@pro-europa.cts.com (Jerry Norris) (03/24/90)

nicholaA@batman.moravian.EDU (Andy Nicholas) writes:

>
> if i add mouse stuff, i want to do it right, and that will require
> overlays... i'll get around to it eventually, just not now in 3.0
>
> Then again, if you have a gs this won't be a bother...
>

Then again, if I had a gs, I wouldn't have my //e... (heh).

Well, I'm glad to see that you want to do it right.
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skann@gnh-applesauce.cts.com (Steve Kann) (04/07/90)

        Well, I never tested to see how file-sizes compared, but in reading the
txt files associated with v.3.0 of shrinkit, it seems that Andy has done some
little modifications in the way files are shrunk.. this affects mostly small
files. From what I read, I assume that the small increase in file size (and
therefore transfer time) is more that offset by the reduced time in
compression/decompression.  
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