bb0@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Bowie Bailey) (07/22/90)
I'm using Kermit 3.86 and it works perfectly except for one major problem. One of the machines I work on is a VMS system and the send command gets quite a bit of use for communication between users. When a send appears on the screen, it beeps. Apparently during that beep, kermit loses most of the rest of the line. Is this a problem with Kermit or do I have something set up wrong? I'm running an Apple IIgs with 512K memory. I had this problem at 1200 baud; I haven't tried it at 300 yet. Any help would be appreciated. -Bowie bb0@beach.cis.ufl.edu
carpentr@serss0.fiu.edu (Ralph P Carpenter) (07/23/90)
In article <23931@uflorida.cis.ufl.EDU> bb0@beach.cis.ufl.edu () writes: >I'm using Kermit 3.86 and it works perfectly except [...] during [a] beep, kermit loses most of the rest of the line. Is this a problem with Kermit[?] Yes, this is a current feature of Kermit-65 on the IIgs. ;-) My solution(s): 1) turn the sound OFF from the Control Panel; this will make the screen border flash when a BELL character is received: a VisiBell, as it were. 2) Use CHIRP to replace the standard Apple BELL. I've used this tiny binary for about six months now, specifically because it fixes Kermit's line-killing Bell problem. Of course, the author's name escapes me at the moment: I believe I picked it up on one of those other $ervice$. I could email you a copy, or post it to comp.binaries.apple if interest warrants. -- | Ralph P Carpenter | InterNet: Ralpho@acc.fau.edu | Blake's 7: | | Sr Programmer/Analyst | CarpentR@SerVax.Bitnet | The | | Florida Atlantic Univ | Ci$: 74015,644 GEnie: Ralpho | Motion | | at Boca Raton | SoBell: 407/367-2616 | Picture |
nparker@CIE.UOREGON.EDU (07/24/90)
In article <1013@kluge.fiu.edu>, carpentr@serss0.fiu.edu (Ralph P Carpenter) writes: >[...stuff about Kermit and the GS's control-G...] > My solution(s): 1) turn the sound OFF from the Control Panel; >this will make the screen border flash when a BELL character is >received: a VisiBell, as it were. Unfortunately, this requires booting GSOS...much too slow a process if you're just running a ProDOS-8 program... > 2) Use CHIRP to replace the standard Apple BELL. I've used >this tiny binary for about six months now, specifically because it >fixes Kermit's line-killing Bell problem. Of course, the author's >name escapes me at the moment: I believe I picked it up on one of >those other $ervice$. I could email you a copy, or post it to >comp.binaries.apple if interest warrants. Bizarre...CHIRP was only written about three months ago...this could only mean...time travel has been discovered! Quick! CALL THE NATIONAL ENQUIRER!!! :-) :-) :-) Seriously...CHIRP is available from the BROWNVM archives as file APPLE2-L 90-01605. It's also available from the author (that's me) by sending E-mail to parker@corona.uoregon.edu or parkern@jacobs.cs.orst.edu. >| Ralph P Carpenter | InterNet: Ralpho@acc.fau.edu | Blake's 7: | >| Sr Programmer/Analyst | CarpentR@SerVax.Bitnet | The | >| Florida Atlantic Univ | Ci$: 74015,644 GEnie: Ralpho | Motion | >| at Boca Raton | SoBell: 407/367-2616 | Picture | -- Neil Parker parker@astro.uoregon.edu nparker@cie.uoregon.edu parkern@jacobs.cs.orst.edu parker@corona.uoregon.edu parkern@nyssa.cs.orst.edu DISCLAIMER: Use only as directed; may be harmful or fatal if swallowed.
toddpw@tybalt.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel) (07/25/90)
nparker@CIE.UOREGON.EDU writes: >In article <1013@kluge.fiu.edu>, carpentr@serss0.fiu.edu (Ralph P >Carpenter) writes: >>[...stuff about Kermit and the GS's control-G...] >> My solution(s): 1) turn the sound OFF from the Control Panel; >>this will make the screen border flash when a BELL character is >>received: a VisiBell, as it were. >Unfortunately, this requires booting GSOS...much too slow a process if >you're just running a ProDOS-8 program... Wrong! He's talking about the Classic Control Panel, the one you can enter from the CDA menu. Type Control-Option-Esc (or is it Control-OpenApple-Esc? I have the reflex down so well I can't remember which, I just do it). Todd Whitesel tddow @ tybalt.caltech.edu
dlyons@Apple.COM (David A. Lyons) (07/25/90)
>>>My [who??] solution(s): 1) turn the sound OFF from the Control Panel; >>>this will make the screen border flash when a BELL character is >>>received: a VisiBell, as it were. (Ralph Carpenter says) >>Unfortunately, this requires booting GSOS...much too slow a process if >>you're just running a ProDOS-8 program... (Todd Whitesel says) >Wrong! He's talking about the Classic Control Panel, the one you can enter from >the CDA menu. Type Control-Option-Esc (or is it Control-OpenApple-Esc? I have >the reflex down so well I can't remember which, I just do it). Sure, you can turn the sound off from the CDA control panel, no problem. If you have a ROM 03 machine, the border will blink for bells. (I'm not sure if you lose any characters during the border blink or not! Give it a try.) If you have ROM 01 machine, the border will blink only if you have booted recent system software (or have otherwise installed a "VisiBell" CDA or something, which you could probably do with P8CDA). -- David A. Lyons, Apple Computer, Inc. | DAL Systems Apple II Developer Technical Support | P.O. Box 875 America Online: Dave Lyons | Cupertino, CA 95015-0875 GEnie: D.LYONS2 or DAVE.LYONS CompuServe: 72177,3233 Internet/BITNET: dlyons@apple.com UUCP: ...!ames!apple!dlyons My opinions are my own, not Apple's.
carpentr@serss0.fiu.edu (Ralph P Carpenter) (07/25/90)
In article <43319@apple.Apple.COM> dlyons@Apple.COM (David A. Lyons) writes: >>>>My [who??] solution(s): 1) turn the sound OFF from the Control Panel; >>>>this will make the screen border flash when a BELL character is >>>>received: a VisiBell, as it were. > >(Ralph Carpenter says) >>>Unfortunately, this requires booting GSOS...much too slow a process if >>>you're just running a ProDOS-8 program... Attribution Fault Detected. /I/ suggested the "sound off" solution, to which /Neil Parker/ replied that this required booting GS/OS to work. That aside: I thought that Mr. Parker was mistaken in his assertion, so I booted my Rom01 with ProDOS-8, and turned off the sound, via the Control Panel CDA. To my great surprise & foot-in-mouth-ment, under (just) ProDOS-8 on my Rom01, this did NOT produce a border flash, just no sound, and Kermit still lost characters on BELL intercepts. :-( I've never noticed this before, since I've not booted my GS on pure ProDOS since before System Software 4.0. Mr. Parker is correct, though apparently the border-flash will work on a ProDOS'd Rom03 (per Mr. Lyons), and it /does/ work on a GS/OS'd Rom01. Mr. Parker also mentions that booting GS/OS just to run a 8-bit program is "too slow". True enough if that's ALL one's going to do, but I boot my machine each morning at 8:30am and (barring a cr*sh or two, knock wood) keep it on until 5pm running multitudinous 16-bitters, with only an odd foray into Kermit and its fellow eights. GS/OS is therefore my normal working environment. System Software 5.0.2, TransWarpGS & DMA-SCSI make it a mighty pleasant environment, too, I might add. :-) (And sorry, Neil, but I already sold exclusive rights to my story to ... Time magazine. :-) :-) :-) ) -- | Ralph P Carpenter | InterNet: Ralpho@acc.fau.edu | Blake's 7: | | Sr Programmer/Analyst | CarpentR@SerVax.Bitnet | The | | Florida Atlantic Univ | Ci$: 74015,644 GEnie: Ralpho | Motion | | at Boca Raton | SoBell: 407/367-2616 | Picture |