[comp.sys.apple2] SoundSmith .94 -- What gives?

pirmann@porthos.rutgers.edu (Dave Pirmann) (07/17/90)

Okay, I have been able to run Soundsmith .7 with no problems.  .9 and
.94 crash, and I assume it's the "It's Not Really GS/OS 5.0.2
Syndrome" that's causing my problems.  I'm getting error $0046 when
running Soundsmith .94 on a 1.25 meg 01 GS.  Any help?  Or perhaps a
giving soul would binhex me a copy of 5.0.2?

Dave
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David Pirmann
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nrunyon%peruvian.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Neil Runyon) (07/17/90)

In article <Jul.17.01.55.08.1990.29257@porthos.rutgers.edu> pirmann@porthos.rutgers.edu (Dave Pirmann) writes:
>
>Okay, I have been able to run Soundsmith .7 with no problems.  .9 and
>.94 crash, and I assume it's the "It's Not Really GS/OS 5.0.2
>Syndrome" that's causing my problems.  I'm getting error $0046 when
>running Soundsmith .94 on a 1.25 meg 01 GS.  Any help?  Or perhaps a
>giving soul would binhex me a copy of 5.0.2?

	I do believe you need 5.0.2, but since I have been running it 
since it first came out, and have not checked otherwise, BUT, I did have
the same problems with SoundSmith .9 and .94.  After some thinking (not a
whole lot mind you) I realized that 5.0.2 does not include tools 32 and 33, 
and that without those SoundSmith will not work.  Just grab 32 and 33 from
the System Tools disk's System folder and it should work fine...

		Neil M. Runyon
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toddpw@tybalt.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel) (07/18/90)

pirmann@porthos.rutgers.edu (Dave Pirmann) writes:

>Okay, I have been able to run Soundsmith .7 with no problems.  .9 and
>.94 crash, and I assume it's the "It's Not Really GS/OS 5.0.2
>Syndrome" that's causing my problems.  I'm getting error $0046 when
>running Soundsmith .94 on a 1.25 meg 01 GS.  Any help?  Or perhaps a
>giving soul would binhex me a copy of 5.0.2?

binhex? wash your mouth out boy!! :)

I can shrinkit and binscii the 5.0.2 disks for you, but you'll only be able to
run .9 because .94 requires more than 1.25 megs in the ROM 1 -- last night I
stripped down a 5.0.2 boot disk as far as it would go, replaced START with
soundsmith, etc... still I got an $0046.

That does it. I'm getting two megs.

Todd Whitesel
toddpw @ tybalt.caltech.edu

throoph@jacobs.CS.ORST.EDU (Henry Throop) (07/18/90)

In article <1990Jul17.172406.23160@laguna.ccsf.caltech.edu> toddpw@tybalt.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel) writes:
>
>I can shrinkit and binscii the 5.0.2 disks for you, but you'll only be able to
>run .9 because .94 requires more than 1.25 megs in the ROM 1 -- last night I
>stripped down a 5.0.2 boot disk as far as it would go, replaced START with
>soundsmith, etc... still I got an $0046.

$46 is file not found; ie you stripped it down a bit too much, or are missing
some file.  Anyways, Soundsmith 0.94 works just fine for me with 5.0(.2?)
and 1.25M on a ROM 01.  Here's what I have on my disk, which has 250 blocks
still free and I'm sure could be stripped down a lot more:

/soundsmith.0.94/      11 files

name            type  blocks   modified               access
----            ----  ------   --------               ------
sndsmith.sys16   s16       1   14-Feb-90    4:29 PM   rwnd B
system           dir       2   31-May-90    8:33 PM   rwnd B
  error.msg        $BC      11   14-Jun-89    9:47 AM   rwnd B
  drivers          dir       1   31-May-90    8:31 PM   rwnd B
    appledisk3.5     drv      12   14-Jun-89    9:37 AM   rwnd B
    finder.data      fnd       1   31-May-90    8:31 PM   rwnd B
    console.driver   drv      15   14-Jun-89    9:46 AM   rwnd B
  expressload      p16      25   17-Jun-89    8:43 AM   rwnd B
  fsts             dir       1   31-May-90    8:31 PM   rwnd B
    char.fst         $BD       5   14-Jun-89    9:46 AM   rwnd B
    pro.fst          $BD      47    7-Aug-89    5:07 PM   rwnd B
    finder.data      fnd       1   31-May-90    8:31 PM   rwnd B
  gs.os            p16      90   18-Sep-89    2:25 PM   rwnd B
  gs.os.dev        $BC       6   15-Sep-89    5:41 PM   rwnd B
  start.gs.os      p16      26   18-Sep-89    2:25 PM   rwnd B
  system.setup     dir       1   31-May-90    8:33 PM   rwnd B
    cdev.init        tsf       6   14-Jun-89   10:59 AM   rwnd B
    resource.mgr     str      19   15-Sep-89    6:12 PM   rwnd B
    sys.resources    p16      20   14-Jun-89   10:34 AM   rwnd B
    tool.setup       str       1   14-Jun-89   10:00 AM   rwnd B
    ts2              $BC      79   15-Sep-89    6:00 PM   rwnd B
    ts3              $BC      18   15-Sep-89    6:01 PM   rwnd B
    finder.data      fnd       1   31-May-90    8:33 PM   rwnd B
  tools            dir       2   31-May-90    4:57 PM   rwnd B
    tool014          tol      49   14-Jun-89   10:15 AM   rwnd B
    tool015          tol      35   14-Jun-89   10:16 AM   rwnd B
    tool016          tol      29   14-Jun-89   10:17 AM   rwnd B
    tool018          tol      43   31-Jul-89    4:31 PM   rwnd B
    tool019          tol      15   14-Jun-89   10:20 AM   rwnd B
    tool020          tol      20   14-Jun-89   10:21 AM   rwnd B
    tool021          tol      26   15-Sep-89    6:02 PM   rwnd B
    tool022          tol       8   14-Jun-89   10:22 AM   rwnd B
    tool023          tol      27   31-Jul-89    4:34 PM   rwnd B
    tool025          tol      14   14-Jun-89   10:24 AM   rwnd B
    tool026          tol      10   14-Jun-89   10:24 AM   rwnd B
    tool027          tol      27   14-Jun-89   10:25 AM   rwnd B
    tool028          tol      13   14-Jun-89   10:25 AM   rwnd B
    tool029          tol       6   14-Jun-89   10:25 AM   rwnd B
    tool034          tol      75   18-Sep-89    2:31 PM   rwnd B
    tool032          tol      27   14-Jun-89   10:29 AM   rwnd B
prodos           sys       4   14-Jun-89    9:57 AM   rwnd B
intro.music      bin      52   28-Apr-90    2:54 PM   rwnd B
sndsmith.screen  pic      65   20-Apr-90    1:26 AM   rwnd B
sndsmith.config  txt       1   28-Apr-90    1:02 AM   rwnd B
main             exe     219   28-Apr-90    7:25 PM   rwnd B
doc.data         bin     124   28-Apr-90    2:54 PM   rwnd B
title.screen     pic      65   28-Apr-90    7:44 PM   rwnd B
finder.root      fnd       1   16-Jul-90    1:50 PM   rwnd B
finder.data      fnd       1   16-Jul-90    1:54 PM   rwnd B

blocks free: 246    used: 1354  (85%)     total: 1600


>That does it. I'm getting two megs.

While you're at it, I'll put in a plug for the Apricorn RAMPro card.
I've never seen it advertised, but got one from Standard Peripherals
(800-535-1707) for $59.  It hold 1-4 MB (using 1 MB chips - $4.70 from
the Chip Merchant), and seems to emulate a GS-RAM+, or at least my
RamKeeper recognizes it as such, rather than an 'Other' as it does my
AST card.  Nice card, at a low price.  (Yes, I was using Soundsmith
0.94 w/ just 1.25 MB before I got more RAM - honest!)

>Todd Whitesel
>toddpw @ tybalt.caltech.edu

Henry
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Internet: throoph@jacobs.cs.orst.edu

whitewolf@gnh-starport.cts.com (Tae Song) (07/21/90)

OK, seems LOTs of you are having problems running Sound Smith v0.94.  I have
that version + System v5.02.

Seems like almost EVERYONE gets error $0046, which I understand is tool missing
or whatever.

Oh, forgot hardware configuration... ROM01 GS, 1.25, 80.9M HD, etc.

1.25M is all you really need.  NOW, at this VERY instant, get your copy of the
System Tools disk, the companion disk to System Disk v5.02.  You'll find on the
System Tools disk, folder called "System" and in there you'll find "Tools". 
Copy all the extra Tools (on System Tools) to the Startup disk (System Disk).

If you still have problems you might want to check if you have System v5.02. 
Simplely reboot, press ANY key (but do so very quickly).  You'll get the text
based startup squence of the GS/OS (you're booting up the Startup/System Disk,
just so you know).  There should be a list with version #s next to them.  The
last three that appear should be v3.1, before it asks you to press the <SPACE>
bar.

OK, lets hope that gets you guys back on track, eh.

I'll make this clear though.  ROM01 with 1.25M CAN run Sound Smith v0.94, this
is a proven FACT.  Take it from one has done so, and CAN repeatly.  I suppose
the only advantage, I have over most of ya is I have an account on America
Online to get the LATEST System update and applications like Sound Smith... not
mention the HD, which has most of the stuff on both the System Disks.

Good Luck... and don't write if, you have an problems... you're suffering from
brain damage caused by staying in college too long.

johnson@peterj.enet.dec.com (07/25/90)

OK, a slightly eralier posting listed all the files I need with dates, sizes,
etc. and I have 'em all, same sizes and dates and everything.

I also did the 'press a key' thing and what *I* saw was three out of the last
four said v03.01, and I'm not sure if that's different from "3.1".

   .
   .
   .
Init Manager part 1   v03.00
Init Manager part 2   v03.01
Init Manager part 2   v03.01
ProDOS FST            v03.01
Character FST         v03.00

When I boot up the disk, I get the intro picture, and the only sound I get is a
*bonk* and then nothing.  I have noticed that if I type x<RETURN> at that time,
my 3= disk is accessed and then *bonk*.  After a few of these I am totally
hung.

Pete Johnson - DEC, Marlboro, MA USA
Internet: johnson@epoch.enet.dec.com
UUCP:  ...!decwrl!epoch.enet!johnson
Compuserve:                 72557,61
GEnie:   (can't get there from here)

UCI137@URIACC.URI.EDU (Andy Kress) (07/25/90)

   Well I got mine to work!  I used the installer to copy all system files
 to a blank disk.  Then I copied tool 32 and 33 from the system.tools disk
 using the finder.  Then I deleted Start, Cdevs, Desk.Accs, ExpressLoad, and
 all the fonts except Shaston 16 and fast.font and font.list.  Then I copied
 all the .94 files over into the System directory and renamed the file
 sndsmith.sys16 to start.  It booted up fine and ran fine too.  It gave me
 the $0046 error when I just copied the files from my harddrive(which has all
 the tools on it) and set it up the same way.  I hope this helps some
 people.  Its a nice improvement over the old one.

                                            Andy    UCI137 at URIACC
PS  Anyone know how to make soundsmith instruments?  Please tell if u do!

UD182050@NDSUVM1.BITNET (Mike Aos) (07/27/90)

On the subject of version numbers, I just thought I'd mention that the update
that comes with the DMA SCSI card bumps several of them to 3.06.

Mike

BTW-Even with the enhancement all seems to work fine on a stock GS.