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From: m.postman at UCLA-Security (UCLA-LOCUS Mail Handler) ===== POSTMAN output follows ===== Mail-from: OTA@S1-A; 2 Dec 1982 0302-PST Via: su-ai.ARPAnet; Thu Dec 2 06:53:35 1982 Date: 02 Dec 1982 0302-PST From: Ted Anderson <OTA at S1-A> Subject: SPACE Digest V3 #62 To: SPACE@MIT-MC Reply-To: Space-Enthusiasts at MIT-MC SPACE Digest Volume 3 : Issue 62 Today's Topics: Space Recreation & Politics Rockwell Settlement Challenger Moved to Launch Pad Lost Glove Dave Bowman's Space Walk, et al. Re: Rockwell Settles out of Court - (nf) How to fund the space program It's the Arts Space Suits ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 1 December 1982 06:25-EST From: Robert Elton Maas <REM at MIT-MC> Subject: Space Recreation & Politics To: harpo!seismo!rocheste!bukys at UCB-C70 cc: SPACE at MIT-MC I think I agree with you. Although perhaps NASA should fund some getaway special where a small explosion in zero-gee vacuum is filmed to give us the basic idea how much different those special effects will be from ones filmed on Earth, movie studies should pay their own way when making special-effects for movies en masse in space. But NASA should permit that kind of use before they permit random people just wasting shuttle time for a vacation flight that won't return even a bunch of exposed movie film. ------------------------------ Date: 30 Nov 82 16:58:49-PST (Tue) To: space at Mit-Mc From: decvax!genradbo!mitccc!jmturn at Ucb-C70 Subject: Rockwell Settlement Article-I.D.: mitccc.200 In-Reply-To: Article alice.1216 Via: Usenet; 1 Dec 82 4:33-PST $1.5 what? Million? Billion? (I suspect million, but who knows?) James ------------------------------ Date: 30 Nov 82 15:20:31-PST (Tue) To: space at Mit-Mc From: harpo!eagle!mhtsa!alice!sjb at Ucb-C70 Subject: Challenger Moved to Launch Pad Article-I.D.: alice.1219 Via: Usenet; 1 Dec 82 7:02-PST The Challenger was today rolled to launch pad 39A in preparations for STS-6, now set to launch on 24 January, 1983. The six hour rollout, which began at 0419 EST, was completed without a hitch. The next major task in the pre-launch preparations will be a 20-second test firing of the Challenger's main engines, now set for 20 December. ------------------------------ Date: 1 December 1982 13:52 est From: Boebert.SCOMP at MIT-MULTICS Subject: Lost Glove To: Space at MIT-MC I'm glad my note sparked some comments; I do want to clarify/reiterate that I wasn't asserting the truth of the barehanded spacewalk, I was simply reporting what I heard at a briefing at Houston. I was a 2LT at the time, and the briefer was an LCol, and under those circumstances you don't (or didn't, at the time) jump up and say "That's impossible!" I still would like to know exactly what happened. If somebody is certain it was Ed White and somebody else has an address I would like to write him and ask. Earl ------------------------------ Date: 1 Dec 1982 1357-EST From: PDL at MIT-XX (P. David Lebling) Subject: Dave Bowman's Space Walk, et al. To: Space-Enthusiasts at MIT-MC In-Reply-To: Your message of 27-Nov-82 0602-EST This is summarized from the "Bioastronautics Data Book" (2nd Edition), a NASA publication. It refers to several animal studies which show a similar response in several species to decompression to near-vacuum conditions (1-2mm Hg). It then says, extrapolating those results to humans: "Some degree of consciousness will probably be retained for 9 to 11 seconds. In rapid sequence thereafter, paralysis will be followed by generalized convulsions and paralysis once again. During this time, water vapor will form rapidly in the soft tissues and somewhat less rapidly in the venous blood. This evolution of vapor will cause marked swelling of the body to perhaps as much as twice its normal volume unless it is restrained by a pressure suit. (It has been demonstated that a properly fitted elastic garment can entirely prevent ebullism at pressures as low as 15mm Hg absolute). ... Venous pressure will meet or exceed arterial pressure within 1 minute. There will be virtually no effective circulation of the blood." "...survival was the rule if recompression occurred within about 90 seconds." "...some animals have died within seconds of decompression and a few others have had severe, lasting central nervous system damage." The qualifier "some" is not too encouraging, but I'd call it possible if unlikely. Note also the remark about preventing ebullism (vaporization of body fluids) with an "elastic garment". It looks like the non-bulky spacesuit has been tried and works, but only to a point. Dave ------- ------------------------------ Date: 30 Nov 82 16:59:02-PST (Tue) To: space at Mit-Mc From: harpo!zeppo!Anonymous at Ucb-C70 Subject: Re: Rockwell Settles out of Court - (nf) Article-I.D.: zeppo.395 Via: Usenet; 1 Dec 82 18:31-PST #R:alice:-121600:zeppo:6300001:000:14 zeppo!Anonymous Nov 30 16:45:00 1982 how much????? ------------------------------ Date: 2 December 1982 01:05-EST From: Jacob Moskowitz <JMSK at MIT-MC> Subject: How to fund the space program To: decvax!utzoo!watmath!bstempleton at UCB-C70 cc: SPACE at MIT-MC ...Have you ever considered not just how many people support the space program but just exactly who they are? It seems to me they are all pretty powerful people. If we wanted to, and were firm enough in our convictions, a strike by supporters of the space program could shut down the entire country completely... A very interesting suggestion. But assuming most space nuts are R&D/Engineering types, what about the familiar problem of strikes by such workers, whose contributions and hence economic effects may not be felt for months or even years ? ------------------------------ Date: 30 Nov 82 11:29:37-PST (Tue) To: space at Mit-Mc From: decvax!utzoo!kcarroll at Ucb-C70 Subject: It's the Arts Article-I.D.: utzoo.2651 Via: Usenet; 1 Dec 82 22:48-PST It will come as a surprise to some, but NASA has long demonstrated an appreciation of the arts. Certainly during the 60's, they went to a fair amount of trouble to introduce various painters and graphic artists to all aspects of the space program, on the principle that history was being made, and that it would be nice to have artists there to record it for posterity. I've seen a number of the paintings that were produced at the time, including one by Norman Rockwell (i think) of Gus Grissom (I think) suiting up. Unfortunately, I can't remember just >where< I saw these paintings; some, however, ought to be in a book titled "The National Air and Space Museum", a marvelous picture-book tour through that museum. I'm not sure what the current state of NASA's art program is; however, rumour has it that they are considering reserving a berth on a future shuttle flight for an artist of some sort, for the same reason as before. Fact has it that Jeanette Robinson, the wife of SF writer Spider Robinson, is actively seeking to fill that berth. She dances professionally, and co-wrote a novel (Stardance) which described dancing in zero-g; she plans to see what sort of a dance she coold do in the shuttle's cargo bay. At the moment, she's looking around for a cheap supplier of pressure-suits (although the pressureless space-suit that's been discussed for the last couple of weeks would surely be more appropriate for dancing (once it's developed) than the standard NASA-issue suit...) -Kieran A. Carroll ------------------------------ Date: 1 Dec 82 7:32:52-PST (Wed) To: space at Mit-Mc From: harpo!eagle!mhtsa!alice!sjb at Ucb-C70 Subject: Space Suits Article-I.D.: alice.1221 Via: Usenet; 2 Dec 82 0:02-PST Technicians have found what they are calling a tentative reason for the failure of the two space suits aboard STS-5. Apparently, in Bill Lenoir's suit, a pressure regulator broke down because a few pieces of plastic that are supposed to keep tension on springs were never installed. They termed this due to a lack of quality control. In William Allen's suit, a fan broke down because of a ''fluke mechanical failure.'' ------------------------------ End of SPACE Digest *******************