bkahn@archive.rtp.dg.com (Bruce Kahn) (08/10/90)
This may be old news to the net but I need some answers/feedback about Design Master and Genesys. What Id like to know is the general opinion and specific kudos/gripes for each (ie 'Design Master is nice but it cant READ in resource forks, Genesys can' or whatever). Recomendations and warnings are also appreciated... Bruce (bkahn@archive.rtp.dg.com)
diz@pro-gsplus.cts.com (Steven Disbrow) (08/15/90)
In-Reply-To: message from bkahn@archive.rtp.dg.com Hmmm, We are working on a comparison review for the next issue of GS+, but I can give you what I think so far. Get Genesys. Design Master is strictly OK. Not being able to edit Resource Forks is, in my opinion, a MAJOR silliness that should NEVER have been allowed to make it into the final release. Add to this the fact that Design Master is very sloppy looking (i.e. the guy had the TOOLS to do a snappy user interface, but not the talent...) and you can understand my dissapointment with Design Master. Genesys, on the other hand is VERY sharp. It's user interface is very well thought out and it is very professional looking. The only thing that Design Master can do that Genesys can't is make Dialog Boxes and Lists. Not that big a deal (although my latest project requires both, so Genesys won't be much help there :) Finally, lemme give an example. Yesterday, I got the new Wings program launcher from Vitesse (very sharp by the way). Wings uses a LOT of resources! Unfortunately, Design Master can't touch them. With Genesys however, I am able to modify almost all aspects of the program. In fact, there is a CString resource 'hidden' in the Wings Resource fork that tells you HOW to modify the Wings resources! (There is also a custom resource called 'EasterEggPic' that I can't figure out how to get to yet...) Design Master simply can't touch this stuff. As I said, these are just my initial feelings, our full review will appear in the the next issue of GS+ magazine. Let me know if you have any questions. Diz -My- Name: Steven W. Disbrow - Publisher of GS+ Magazine | Send Me Your Address: POB 15366, Chattanooga, TN 37415 (U.S.A.)________| Address & I'll Voice: (615) 870-4960 |ProLine: diz@pro-gsplus |<-other | Send You A Sample BBS: (615) 875-4607 |America Online: Obnoxio |<-stuff | Of GS+ Magazine!
scalawag@blake.acs.washington.edu (Keith Frederick) (08/16/90)
In article <3943@crash.cts.com> diz@pro-gsplus.cts.com (Steven Disbrow) writes: >In-Reply-To: message from bkahn@archive.rtp.dg.com > >thought out and it is very professional looking. The only thing that Design >Master can do that Genesys can't is make Dialog Boxes and Lists. Not that big >a deal (although my latest project requires both, so Genesys won't be much >help there :) > > > Diz > -My- > Name: Steven W. Disbrow - Publisher of GS+ Magazine | Send Me Your > Address: POB 15366, Chattanooga, TN 37415 (U.S.A.)________| Address & I'll > Voice: (615) 870-4960 |ProLine: diz@pro-gsplus |<-other | Send You A Sample > BBS: (615) 875-4607 |America Online: Obnoxio |<-stuff | Of GS+ Magazine! Well, why not simply use a Window instead of a dialog box, Windows are a lot more flexible to use and set up in my opinion. Also, GeneSys I believe can use Alerts. I thought GeneSys could use Lists (are you sure it can't?). One thing that I really like about GeneSys is its ease of use and ease of editing. Design- Master is actually quite frustrating to use and IMHO the interface stinks. I agree with you, GET GENESYS. The only plus DesignMaster has is its ability to work in 320x200 mode and the amount of sample source code that comes with it. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Keith R. Frederick / scalawag@blake.acs.washington.edu / CIS:73760,3521
diz@pro-gsplus.cts.com (Steven Disbrow) (08/19/90)
In-Reply-To: message from scalawag@blake.acs.washington.edu
>I thought Genesys could use Lists (are you sure it can't?)...
Right you are! Genesys can indeed create lists. (Thanks to my ace programmer
joe 'Gonzo' wankerl for gently pointing this out to me... "You BONEHEAD! It's
under add control!!!" Thanks joe!)
Therefore, I must ammend my earlier statement to say that, The only thing
DesignMaster can do that Genesys can't is make dialogs and work in 320 mode.
Not that big a loss.
Get Genesys.
Diz
-My-
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On Sun, 19 Aug 90 07:16:15 GMT Steven Disbrow said: > >Therefore, I must ammend my earlier statement to say that, The only thing >DesignMaster can do that Genesys can't is make dialogs and work in 320 mode. "But why use dialogs," you ask? Well... SFPPutFile2 and SFPGetFile2. I think that about sums it up. :-) > > Diz > -My- > Name: Steven W. Disbrow - Publisher of GS+ Magazine | Send Me Your > Address: POB 15366, Chattanooga, TN 37415 (U.S.A.)________| Address & I'll > Voice: (615) 870-4960 |ProLine: diz@pro-gsplus |<-other | Send You A Sample > BBS: (615) 875-4607 |America Online: Obnoxio |<-stuff | Of GS+ Magazine! -- ===> Josef W. Wankerl, college student | "I am a Viking" -Y. Malmsteen ProLine: jwankerl@pro-gsplus | BITNET: JWANKERL@UTCVM InterNet: jwankerl@pro-gsplus.cts.com | UUCP: ...crash!pro-gsplus!jwankerl ARPA/DDN: ...crash!pro-gsplus!jwankerl@nosc.mil | I'm employed by EGO, GS+!