UD182050@NDSUVM1.BITNET (Mike Aos) (08/19/90)
I tried everything I could think of, as well as what few suggestions I got
from the net to no avail. Does anyone know IF it can be done, and if it
can, HOW?
Thanks,
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Mike
UD182050@NDSUVM1 (.Bitnet?) "Share and Enjoy"
UD182050@VM1.NoDak.Edu -Sirius Cybernetics Corporation
Apple IIgs 'till I can afford a NeXT!
I got LOTSA opinions. You want one? You can have it!MQUINN@UTCVM.BITNET (08/20/90)
>I've tried everyting I could think of, as well as what few suggestions I got >from the net to no avail. Does anyone know IF it can be done, and if it >can, HOW? I don't know if it's possible using the icon editor you have, but try using DICED. I replaced the trash icon SEVERAL times with this. If you can't find a copy, I'll e-mail you one. Michael J. Quinn
JDA@CU.NIH.GOV ("Doug Ashbrook") (08/21/90)
>I've tried everyting I could think of, as well as what few suggestions I got >from the net to no avail. Does anyone know IF it can be done, and if it >can, HOW? The following information was sent to this news group by Grant Delaney back in October of 1989. As far as I know, the information is still applicable. Date: Fri, 6 Oct 89 09:46:00 -0600 Sender: INFO-APP Info-Apple List <INFO-APP@NDSUVM1> From: "H. Grant Delaney" <delaneyg%wnre.aecl.cdn@RELAY.CDNNET.CA> Subject: notes on disappearing Trash Some notes on Icons and the GS Finder - Courtesy of Rob Moore and Jim Merritt. 1. Avoiding the dreaded "Disappearing Trashcan syndrome" a) Do not alter the GS Finder.Icons file in any way. There are better ways to accomplish the same functions. These will be explained later. b) Do not have any icons assigned to filenames with wildcards that also do not have the filetype specified. In fact, we highly recommend specifying a filetype for all icons you add to the icons folder. It's a rare case when you can specify a name and not also know the filetype. The subtype may or may not be specified. c) Above all, do not attempt to replace the "generic document" icon in Finder.Icons, that is used when no other icon matches the file name or filetype. This icon serves a special purpose in the Finder icon structure and must not be altered or moved. 2. How to properly modify the Finder.Icons. (Wait a minute - We said you couldn't do this!) a) Make a copy of the Finder.Icons file and delete all of the icons you don't want to change. You _Must_ delete the Generic Document icon. It's last in the file. The Finder gets really upset if there is more than one of these. b) Edit the icons you want to change and save the file with a new name of your choice. Your edited icons will be used in place of the corresponding icons in Finder.Icons. c) You can change the Trashcan's image but you can't increase its size much. Don't try to change any of its other characteristics. 3. Fun with Folders. Want customized folder icons? It's easy. a) Open Finder.Icons and copy the Directory folder icon - labeled DIR. b) Open a new or existing icon file of your own and save the copied folder icon there. _Close_ the Finder.Icons file. c) Edit the icon to add a picture or whatever and change the filename for the icon to the name of the folder you want this icon to represent. d) Now you have a customized folder icon. To do more, use copy and paste to duplicate the icon in your file and edit the copies. 4. Some general info: Other than Finder.Icons, icon files are loaded by the Finder in directory order. If there are multiple icons that could match a given file or filetype, the last one loaded will be used. This happens because the Finder loads the icons files as they're found in the directory and then searches the list of icons backwards from last to first looking for the first match it can find. If none of your custom icons match a given file, the Finder will always find a match of some sort in Finder.Icons, with the Generic Document Icon being the match of last resort. So if the Icon you see is not the icon you expected, you probably have more than one icon that matches your file and the one shown is farther down in the directory than the one you wanted. You can rearrange the directory or better still, just delete the duplicate icons you don't want. It's smart to delete any icons that you're not using. They're all loaded by the Finder and each uses a certain amount of memory, whether it's displayed or not. Have fun. ==================================================================== J. Douglas Ashbrook (301) 496-5181 INTERNET: JDA@CU.NIH.GOV BITNET: JDA@NIHCU National Institutes of Health, Computer Center, Bethesda, MD 20892
JDA@CU.NIH.GOV ("Doug Ashbrook") (08/23/90)
>I've tried everyting I could think of, as well as what few suggestions I got >from the net to no avail. Does anyone know IF it can be done, and if it >can, HOW? The following information was sent to this news group by Grant Delaney back in October of 1989. As far as I know, the information is still applicable. > Date: Fri, 6 Oct 89 09:46:00 -0600 > Sender: INFO-APP Info-Apple List <INFO-APP@NDSUVM1> > From: "H. Grant Delaney" <delaneyg%wnre.aecl.cdn@RELAY.CDNNET.CA> > Subject: notes on disappearing Trash Some notes on Icons and the GS Finder - Courtesy of Rob Moore and Jim Merritt. 1. Avoiding the dreaded "Disappearing Trashcan syndrome" a) Do not alter the GS Finder.Icons file in any way. There are better ways to accomplish the same functions. These will be explained later. b) Do not have any icons assigned to filenames with wildcards that also do not have the filetype specified. In fact, we highly recommend specifying a filetype for all icons you add to the icons folder. It's a rare case when you can specify a name and not also know the filetype. The subtype may or may not be specified. c) Above all, do not attempt to replace the "generic document" icon in Finder.Icons, that is used when no other icon matches the file name or filetype. This icon serves a special purpose in the Finder icon structure and must not be altered or moved. 2. How to properly modify the Finder.Icons. (Wait a minute - We said you couldn't do this!) a) Make a copy of the Finder.Icons file and delete all of the icons you don't want to change. You _Must_ delete the Generic Document icon. It's last in the file. The Finder gets really upset if there is more than one of these. b) Edit the icons you want to change and save the file with a new name of your choice. Your edited icons will be used in place of the corresponding icons in Finder.Icons. c) You can change the Trashcan's image but you can't increase its size much. Don't try to change any of its other characteristics. 3. Fun with Folders. Want customized folder icons? It's easy. a) Open Finder.Icons and copy the Directory folder icon - labeled DIR. b) Open a new or existing icon file of your own and save the copied folder icon there. _Close_ the Finder.Icons file. c) Edit the icon to add a picture or whatever and change the filename for the icon to the name of the folder you want this icon to represent. d) Now you have a customized folder icon. To do more, use copy and paste to duplicate the icon in your file and edit the copies. 4. Some general info: Other than Finder.Icons, icon files are loaded by the Finder in directory order. If there are multiple icons that could match a given file or filetype, the last one loaded will be used. This happens because the Finder loads the icons files as they're found in the directory and then searches the list of icons backwards from last to first looking for the first match it can find. If none of your custom icons match a given file, the Finder will always find a match of some sort in Finder.Icons, with the Generic Document Icon being the match of last resort. So if the Icon you see is not the icon you expected, you probably have more than one icon that matches your file and the one shown is farther down in the directory than the one you wanted. You can rearrange the directory or better still, just delete the duplicate icons you don't want. It's smart to delete any icons that you're not using. They're all loaded by the Finder and each uses a certain amount of memory, whether it's displayed or not. Have fun. ==================================================================== J. Douglas Ashbrook (301) 496-5181 INTERNET: JDA@CU.NIH.GOV BITNET: JDA@NIHCU National Institutes of Health, Computer Center, Bethesda, MD 20892
vic@pro-abilink.cts.com (Vic Shrock) (08/23/90)
In-Reply-To: message from UD182050@NDSUVM1.BITNET I have successfully replaced the trash can icons with toilet seats. What I did was go into the finder icons folder and replace the trash can icons with what I wanted. That entailed inserting the icons I wanted and then deleting the trash can icons. I inserted my custom icons in the same spot the trash can icons were at. NOTE - if you leave the trash can icons in the finder icons folder, the system will be confused as to which icon to display and so will display none of them when you drag something down to be deleted and also after you dump the trash. Hope this helps. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Vic Shrock Charts N32-25.408 | ICBMs N32-25.419 Abilene, Texas NAD-27 W99-46.541 | WGS-84 W99-46.562 Vic@Pro-Abilink CRASH!Pro-Carolina!Pro-Abilink!Vic -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
JDA@CU.NIH.GOV ("Doug Ashbrook") (08/24/90)
>I've tried everyting I could think of, as well as what few suggestions I got >from the net to no avail. Does anyone know IF it can be done, and if it >can, HOW? The following information was sent to this news group by Grant Delaney back in October of 1989. As far as I know, the information is still applicable. Date: Fri, 6 Oct 89 09:46:00 -0600 Subject: notes on disappearing Trash Some notes on Icons and the GS Finder - Courtesy of Rob Moore and Jim Merritt. 1. Avoiding the dreaded "Disappearing Trashcan syndrome" a) Do not alter the GS Finder.Icons file in any way. There are better ways to accomplish the same functions. These will be explained later. b) Do not have any icons assigned to filenames with wildcards that also do not have the filetype specified. In fact, we highly recommend specifying a filetype for all icons you add to the icons folder. It's a rare case when you can specify a name and not also know the filetype. The subtype may or may not be specified. c) Above all, do not attempt to replace the "generic document" icon in Finder.Icons, that is used when no other icon matches the file name or filetype. This icon serves a special purpose in the Finder icon structure and must not be altered or moved. 2. How to properly modify the Finder.Icons. (Wait a minute - We said you couldn't do this!) a) Make a copy of the Finder.Icons file and delete all of the icons you don't want to change. You _Must_ delete the Generic Document icon. It's last in the file. The Finder gets really upset if there is more than one of these. b) Edit the icons you want to change and save the file with a new name of your choice. Your edited icons will be used in place of the corresponding icons in Finder.Icons. c) You can change the Trashcan's image but you can't increase its size much. Don't try to change any of its other characteristics. 3. Fun with Folders. Want customized folder icons? It's easy. a) Open Finder.Icons and copy the Directory folder icon - labeled DIR. b) Open a new or existing icon file of your own and save the copied folder icon there. _Close_ the Finder.Icons file. c) Edit the icon to add a picture or whatever and change the filename for the icon to the name of the folder you want this icon to represent. d) Now you have a customized folder icon. To do more, use copy and paste to duplicate the icon in your file and edit the copies. 4. Some general info: Other than Finder.Icons, icon files are loaded by the Finder in directory order. If there are multiple icons that could match a given file or filetype, the last one loaded will be used. This happens because the Finder loads the icons files as they're found in the directory and then searches the list of icons backwards from last to first looking for the first match it can find. If none of your custom icons match a given file, the Finder will always find a match of some sort in Finder.Icons, with the Generic Document Icon being the match of last resort. So if the Icon you see is not the icon you expected, you probably have more than one icon that matches your file and the one shown is farther down in the directory than the one you wanted. You can rearrange the directory or better still, just delete the duplicate icons you don't want. It's smart to delete any icons that you're not using. They're all loaded by the Finder and each uses a certain amount of memory, whether it's displayed or not. Have fun. ==================================================================== J. Douglas Ashbrook (301) 496-5181 INTERNET: JDA@CU.NIH.GOV BITNET: JDA@NIHCU National Institutes of Health, Computer Center, Bethesda, MD 20892