era@ncar.ucar.edu (Ed Arnold) (08/24/90)
Thanks to the following persons for their responses to my question, "Is Apple about to kill the IIgs?" This question was asked because that's essentially what a dealer in my area told me. I received only 4 responses, with 3 out of 4 a resounding "no": Raymond Lang <lang@rex.cs.tulane.edu>: |The general drift of the discussion seems to be that Apple has no |intentions of dropping the II line. In fact, they are actually |starting to support it more. It seems the II Infinitum letter campaign |had some effect, as well as their own observation that they were |losing the low end of the market (i.e., they realized that the Apple II |and the Mac were geared to different markets and that someone who |choses not to buy an Apple II is probably not going to chose a Mac |instead but rather another manufacturer's model). |The IIgs was one of the top 10 best selling models in 1989; in other |words, they're still making money on it---so why should they drop it. Phil McDunnough <pmcd@nexus.yorku.ca>: | The rumour of the demise of the GS is not new, and is probably not true. |Apple has publicly said it would continue making, selling and improving the |GS while continuing to integrate it more closely with the Mac. | I am currently beta testing Public Folder GS. One will be able to boot the |GS from a non-dedicated Mac with System 7.0 and HyperCard-GS will be released |this year. | Of course anything is possible, but I highly suspect your dealer is not in |touch with the GS world(if he sells only a few a year->mainly selling Macs to |business. | What is "supposed" to happen in October is the introduction of the Ma |Mac Classic(an SE basically at a + price), a 20MHz version of the ci |with one slot and around $3500, a low cost 020 color Mac with a slot |for a //e board(priced around $1500 without the board but with 4 or |8 bit colour). "H. Grant Delaney" <delaneyg@wnre.aecl.ca>: |I don't know about the emulation board but sounds like the dealer is trying |to do a deal on you. No end for the apple II they sold more GSs than macs |last year although they made less money on them. dinl!inljeff.den.mmc.com!carnahan (Rich Carnahan): |I heard the same thing from our Apple Rep at Martin. He indicated the |Apple II emulator board would be introduced sometime early next year. |More's the pity. -- Ed Arnold * NCAR * POB 3000, Boulder, CO 80307-3000 * 303-497-1253(voice) 303-497-1137(fax) * era@ncar.ucar.edu [128.117.64.4] * era@ncario.BITNET era@ncar.UUCP * Edward.Arnold@f809.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG
gwyn@smoke.BRL.MIL (Doug Gwyn) (08/24/90)
In article <8303@ncar.ucar.edu> era@ncar.ucar.edu (Ed Arnold) writes: >dinl!inljeff.den.mmc.com!carnahan (Rich Carnahan): >|I heard the same thing from our Apple Rep at Martin. He indicated the >|Apple II emulator board would be introduced sometime early next year. >|More's the pity. I don't know why people assume that introduction of an Apple //e emulator board for a Mac II necessarily means "the end of the Apple II". If Apple were to support the rumored Macintosh emulator board for the IIGS would people say that marked the end of the Macintosh??
philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough) (08/24/90)
In article <8303@ncar.ucar.edu> era@ncar.ucar.edu (Ed Arnold) writes: >Thanks to the following persons for their responses to my question, >"Is Apple about to kill the IIgs?" This question was asked because >that's essentially what a dealer in my area told me. > >I received only 4 responses, with 3 out of 4 a resounding "no": [what follows is an edited version of my reply-not accurate of course] >| The rumour of the demise of the GS is not new, and is probably not true. >|Apple has publicly said it would continue making, selling and improving the >|GS while continuing to integrate it more closely with the Mac. >| I am currently beta testing Public Folder GS. One will be able to boot the >|GS from a non-dedicated Mac with System 7.0 and HyperCard-GS will be released >|this year. >| Of course anything is possible, but I highly suspect your dealer is not in >|touch with the GS world(if he sells only a few a year->mainly selling Macs to >|business. >| What is "supposed" to happen in October is the introduction of the Ma >|Mac Classic(an SE basically at a + price), a 20MHz version of the ci >|with one slot and around $3500, a low cost 020 color Mac with a slot >|for a //e board(priced around $1500 without the board but with 4 or >|8 bit colour). Well Ed, I don't believe I mentioned $1500 for the 020 colour Mac(with the slot for a //e board). The rumours have it priced around $2500. That being said, I must distance myself from what you claim I said regarding other matters and my own opinions. In general it is not proper to relay, interpret,etc...the opinions of others to a public forum, especially since they may be taken out of context and E-mail is after all a private communication. As you may note from my postings, I am on the faculty of a university(i.e. I work for someone). My public opinions are strictly my own and I don't particularly want to have to explain to my employer why I am expressing certain views which may be taken as a reflection of the university's views(they may/may not be- I don't know). As for the eternal rumour of the GS being dropped, it is a pity that this keeps coming back and is taken seriously by users, developers,etc... There is one way to find out. Wait until October xx,1990 when Apple announces these Macs. If the GS price is not lowered and is priced higher than the "low-cost" colour Mac(with a similar configuration) then that would be a sign that Apple does not want people to buy the GS. I can't understand the rational, as the GS and the Mac make a very nice team for the educational market. Philip McDunnough University of Toronto philip@utstat.toronto [my opinions]