r.levy@cooper.cooper.EDU (Rami Levy ) (10/09/90)
This is in response to picketing Apple Computer in Cupertino, as well as other things about Apple. I read Jeremy Mereness' "picketing Cupertino" suggestion with enthusiasm, and I wholeheartedly agree with it. Something has to be done, and done NOW. If I wasn't in school in New York, you can bet I would do it! I've already sent numerous letters to Apple regarding their ridiculous "policy" of "support". (They've responded to each one of them.) Once they gave me a case # and asked me to call them (collect) and discuss my problem (that specific one was the fact that their "Authorized" Apple Dealers (a) knew SH*T about the Apple IIgs (b) Displayed it, instead of having a nice demo (e.g., Nucleus, Modulae, or EVEN Apple's Introduction to the Apple IIgs) running on it, they had the bouncing apple going back and forth. Boy, I would buy THAT! (c) refused to provide the FREE upgrade to System 5.0.2 (and previously 5.0) for free, if at all.) On the phone, they explained that most dealers are now catering to business users, and if I want to see the GS displayed I should go to this one dealer (yes, ONE dealer in the ENTIRE NEW YORK AREA) which dealt with education customers. I didn't feel like arguing with the person on the phone, it would not change anything. Apple is simply NOT TAPPING the huge possiblities of the GS!! It can make SO MUCH MONEY (isn't that the name of the "business" now?) by marketing TWO great machines, which will NOT compete with each other - rather they can complement each other. There is nothing wrong with building a "bridge" to link the two, but at least SUPPORT the GS while you're at it. After all, there are over 5.5 million Apple II users out there (or maybe 6 million, or more, I'm not sure) which are DEDICATED to their II, and would love (?) to give Apple their $$$ (after all, what has Apple Computer, Inc., been living off of??? Sales of the Apple II!) if they only knew that Apple would support and upgrade and ADVERTISE the GS! I've seen 3 commercials (last year) on TV in my whole life for the GS. I've had an Apple since 1982 (II+), and bought a GS in 1988. I LOVE my computer, and would NEVER EVER EVER switch to an IBM (uggh) or even a Mac. The Apple II has more software titles than the Mac, and I can do everything I need to do on my GS. What the hell is their problem? If they would only stop bickering (between theuir product divisions) and get their act together, we would be happy, and they would be happier (RICHER). I mean, is top manage- ment so screwed up that they don't realize what a great product the GS is? What about marketing? Isn't it easier to market a computer that has 4096 colors, SHR graphics, and 15 voices, at a good price (albeit high), than it is to market a small-screened, monochrome computer whose sound capabilities are blown away by the GS? (not to mention the Mac's closed architecture and high price tag). Also, they could mention that the GS and the Mac can (and do) use the same keyboard (ADB), can use the same drives and read each other's files, and even use the same hard drives (SCSI)! The straw that broke the camel's back was their EMPTY promises of "support". I'll believe it when I see it. I've seen NOTHING in the past year except the VOC and system 5.0.2. Although those are major improvements, they ARE planning on bringing out 3 new Macs. I admit, increasing the resolution on the SHR screen may be a bit tough, but how hard can it be to release a MIDI card, built-in stereo card (not just capability), a faster processor, and more built-in memory in a new GS???? If AE can do it, why can't Apple? Because they need MAJOR restructuring. And a few good knocks on the head. WAKE UP, APPLE!!! It's not good business to leave 6 million or so users stranded... I believe a PROTEST such as picketing their HQ in CA is the THING TO DO, esppecially with the possiblity of BAD PRESS. Because THAT can hurt them (even more) on Wall Street, and THAT hurts. AND it can wake up the Mac users to see that the same may happen to them.... APPLE II FOREVER! GS RULES!!!! Rami r.levy@marvin.cooper.edu
jb10320@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Desdinova) (10/09/90)
In article <2982@cooper.cooper.EDU> r.levy@cooper.cooper.EDU (Rami Levy ) writes: > >This is in response to picketing Apple Computer in Cupertino, >as well as other things about Apple. > [removed stuff about bad experiences with dealer] [yet another Apple-bash] > The straw that broke the camel's back was their EMPTY promises of >"support". I'll believe it when I see it. I've seen NOTHING in the past >year except the VOC and system 5.0.2. Although those are major improvements, >they ARE planning on bringing out 3 new Macs. I admit, increasing the >resolution on the SHR screen may be a bit tough, but how hard can it >be to release a MIDI card, built-in stereo card (not just capability), >a faster processor, and more built-in memory in a new GS???? Just for the record... Apple currently has a MIDI interface for the GS, although I don't know if it says on the package that it works with the GS. I know for a fact I've gotten DiversiTune to work with it. It plugs into the Modem or Printer port. And 1Meg on the motherboard is about the same as most machines come with these days. [One last apple bash] > APPLE II FOREVER! GS RULES!!!! > Rami >r.levy@marvin.cooper.edu Amen. -- Jawaid Bazyar | Blondes in big black cars look better wearing Senior/Computer Engineering | their dark sunglasses at night. (unk. wierdo) jb10320@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu | The gin, the gin, glows in the Dark! | (B O'Cult) Apple II Users Unite! Storm the New Product Announcement and Demand Justice!