pmgannon@athena.mit.edu (Patrick Gannon) (10/08/90)
I have just finished installing my new hard drive (a Seagate ~46Meg) along with my new Apple High Speed SCSI card. I have a question about installing sytem files on it: How can I set it up so I can boot from the hard drive? I tried install and simply copying my sytem disk onto the top level directory in one partition of the hard drive (I partitioned it into 23M and 24M sections), but this did not work. When I tried to boot from slot 7 (where I put the SCSI card) the 'welcome to the IIgs' message would show up and the red line would cruise along to the end of the lined, but no files were loaded (I could tell this by pressing space while it booted). Also, if I booted from my sytem disk and ran ProDos from my hard drive, I would get a fatal system error #308 (I believe). (ROM 01, system 5.0.2, I have an AE GSRamPlus in there too . . .) Sorry for a long description, but I hope someone can tell me what to do. Patrick Gannon pmgannon@athena.mit.edu (Internet) ...!mit-eddie!athena.mit.edu!pmgannon (UUCP)
toddpw@tybalt.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel) (10/08/90)
The High Speed SCSI card insists on starting up from the first partition it sees -- this means drive 1. If you copied your system disk with an 8 bit based copier then many of the important files will have been corrupted; they have 'resource forks' and must be copied with the GS finder (possibly other programs but I don't know the list). Run installer from the floppy that came with the card (important!) and install SCSI HD on your floppy boot disk (if it will fit...), reboot, and now your floppy system will see the HD. Use installer or finder (if you want a straight copy of the floppy based system) to put the system disk on the first partition (the first partition icon that pops up in the finder). Your SCSI card will now boot from the HD properly. If you still have problems let me know, I have such a setup working perfectly (never had any problems that weren't obviously me screwing up) for some time now. Todd Whitesel toddpw @ tybalt.caltech.edu
pmgannon@athena.mit.edu (Patrick Gannon) (10/08/90)
toddpw@tybalt.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel) writes: >The High Speed SCSI card insists on starting up from the first partition it >sees -- this means drive 1. If you copied your system disk with an 8 bit >based copier then many of the important files will have been corrupted; they >have 'resource forks' and must be copied with the GS finder (possibly other >programs but I don't know the list). Run installer from the floppy that came >with the card (important!) and install SCSI HD on your floppy boot disk (if >it will fit...), reboot, and now your floppy system will see the HD. Use >installer or finder (if you want a straight copy of the floppy based system) >to put the system disk on the first partition (the first partition icon that >pops up in the finder). Your SCSI card will now boot from the HD properly. > >If you still have problems let me know, I have such a setup working perfectly >(never had any problems that weren't obviously me screwing up) for some time >now. OK, I will . . . The floppy system does see the hard drive. In fact, the terminal program I am running now is *on* the hard drive. I just re-formattedthe drive, and I have the same problems. First, I format the drive using the utility included with the SCSI card. Second, I install all of the drivers from the SCSI utility disk to the hard disk, resulting in a system folder showing up in the 1st partition of the hard disk. Third, I copy basic.launcher, basic.sytem, icons, and prodos from the system floppy by clicking and dragging from within the finder. Fourth, I set the boot slot to 7 (the HD slot) and restart. It begins to load, but at some point while the red line is getting longer on the startup screen, it dies and I get: Fatal System Error 0308 (I wrote it down this time). It did not help matters when I copied the system folder off of the system floppy into the system folder on the hard drive either. > >Todd Whitesel >toddpw @ tybalt.caltech.edu Thanks for any more advice, Patrick Gannon pmgannon@athena.mit.edu (Internet) ...!mit-eddie!athena.mit.edu!pmgannon (UUCP)
toddpw@tybalt.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel) (10/09/90)
pmgannon@athena.mit.edu (Patrick Gannon) writes: >The floppy system does see the hard drive. In fact, the terminal >program I am running now is *on* the hard drive. I just re-formattedthe >drive, and I have the same problems. First, I format the drive using >the utility included with the SCSI card. Second, I install all of the >drivers from the SCSI utility disk to the hard disk, resulting in a >system folder showing up in the 1st partition of the hard disk. Third, >I copy basic.launcher, basic.sytem, icons, and prodos from the system >floppy by clicking and dragging from within the finder. Fourth, I set >the boot slot to 7 (the HD slot) and restart. It begins to load, but at >some point while the red line is getting longer on the startup screen, >it dies and I get: Fatal System Error 0308 (I wrote it down this time). Here's your problem: Installing the drivers from the SCSI utilities disk ONLY puts the drivers and some O/S patches into the system folder. It does NOT give you a complete system that is ready to run. If you installed the SCSI HD on the floppy system with the Installer on the SCSI utilities disk that came with the card, then you should be able to boot the floppy system and drag the entire contents of your system disk to the hard drive. However, the Apple Recommended procedure at this point is: 1. Boot the floppy system that can see the HD. 2. Launch the Installer on the /System.Tools disk. 3. Install "Latest System Files" onto your hard drive. At this point the drive has a usable system folder and support files but it still needs a SCSI driver that works with the high speed SCSI card properly. The "SCSI HD" on the /System.Tools installer is no good for this. 4. Quit and Launch the Installer from the SCSI utilities disk. 5. Install "SCSI HD" onto the hard drive. Boot the hard drive and enjoy. The above 5 steps are what I did. No problems for over a month. Todd Whitesel toddpw @ tybalt.caltech.edu