[comp.sys.apple2] Fatal System Errors

pmgannon@athena.mit.edu (Patrick Gannon) (10/11/90)

Rom 01, AE GSRamPlus, Seagate 46M SCSI drive.

Here's a little (possibly familiar) story:

I put together my hard drive, installed scsi drivers to my system
floppy, installed scsi drivers on my hard drive, and installed "latest
system files" onto the hard drive.  I set the startup slot to 7 (where
the hard drive is), and restart.

It hummmmms along for a bit, showing the red line getting longer and
finally, pops into that medium blue background with the little white
apple bouncing back and forth, telling me I have experienced (yet
another) fatal system error 0308.  If I press space while it is booting,
it gives the "Welcome to the World of the GS/OS" message, then fills
the screen with garbage before any modules/programs are loaded.

Can someone please tell me why this (not being able to start up from the
HD) would happen, although the hard drive works great to just store and
run programs (once I have booted with another disk)? 

Is this possibly a problem with the new Apple High Speed SCSI card I
just put in? (the computer's id is 7, the hd's id is 6)

I have reformatted, re-installed, and re-copied everything.  I even went
out and got a new copy of the system (5.0.2).  I asked everyone I know
up here.  We are all stuck.  This is *very* annoying.

Please help me out.

Thanks,
Patrick Gannon	
pmgannon@athena.mit.edu (Internet)
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toddpw@tybalt.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel) (10/11/90)

pmgannon@athena.mit.edu (Patrick Gannon) writes:

>Rom 01, AE GSRamPlus, Seagate 46M SCSI drive.

>I put together my hard drive, installed scsi drivers to my system
>floppy, installed scsi drivers on my hard drive, and installed "latest
>system files" onto the hard drive.  I set the startup slot to 7 (where
>the hard drive is), and restart.

install the scsi drivers onto your hd again and it will work.

the gotcha here is that the scsi driver installation has to be done AFTER
"latest system files" have been installed, because the scsi driver install
installs not just the drivers but a new version of the main GS/OS system files
as well -- they are supposedly part of 5.0.3 (as yet unreleased) and were put
on the DMA SCSI disk because of problems people were having with 5.0.2 and the
new card.

Todd Whitesel
toddpw @ tybalt.caltech.edu

spock@wrkof.incom.de (Martin Georg) (10/12/90)

In article <1990Oct11.001911.9306@nntp-server.caltech.edu> toddpw@tybalt.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel) writes:
(.... Some stuff about installing GS/OS deleted ...)
>
>install the scsi drivers onto your hd again and it will work.
>
>the gotcha here is that the scsi driver installation has to be done AFTER
>"latest system files" have been installed, because the scsi driver install
>installs not just the drivers but a new version of the main GS/OS system files
>as well -- they are supposedly part of 5.0.3 (as yet unreleased) and were put
>on the DMA SCSI disk because of problems people were having with 5.0.2 and the
>new card.
>
>Todd Whitesel
>toddpw @ tybalt.caltech.edu

Sorry to coorect you, Todd, but System Software 5.03 is already shipping -
at least on the new Vulcans from AE. A friend of mine (who is an authorized
AE dealer here in Germany) found that System Software on a new Vulcan a
week ago. The new features are (in brief:)

True 27-pin ImageWriter LQ driver (with triple font-heigh in system folder
New drivers for HP Deskjet plus and Imagewriter II from Apple!
All drivers have more page formats (including lables and envelopes)

New file-select Box. The "Disk" button has changed to "Volumes". When you
click on it, you get a list of all volumes which you can access directly.

Basic.System V1.4.1
ProDOS 8 V1.9 with new Quit-Selector
9 Tools, including the buggy TextEdit, have been revised
GS/OS V3.3 is the new Version number.

Dave Lyons, could you please infrom us if more obvious things have changed
or if there are new features we should be aware of??? Thanks!

----> And that's a minor release???? What do you think about?

Martin Georg,
Frankfurt, Germany
----> Apple II forever! <----
  

appleman@pro-truckstop.cts.com (The Sanitarium) (10/14/90)

In-Reply-To: message from pmgannon@athena.mit.edu

>It hummmmms along for a bit, showing the red line getting longer and
>finally, pops into that medium blue background with the little white
>apple bouncing back and forth, telling me I have experienced (yet
>another) fatal system error 0308.  If I press space while it is booting,
>it gives the "Welcome to the World of the GS/OS" message, then fills
>the screen with garbage before any modules/programs are loaded.

Just an idea...you are letting the hard drive power up and get to speed before
powering up the computer, aren't you?

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WKF2298@RITVAX.ISC.RIT.EDU (Wonko the Sane) (10/14/90)

To the person getting the fatal system error 0308:

	Ah, yes, 0308.  I was getting that for the longest time and called
the local dealer for help several times to no avail.
	DON'T HOLD ME TO THIS, but if I remember correctly, my problem was
that I had removed one of the FST's to save space. . . the CHAR.FST was
the one in particular.  Try checking them out. . . you may find your
problem there.

					William K. Fry
					wkf2298@ritvax