greg@hoss.unl.edu (Hammer) (10/19/90)
I remember seeing a disk copy program called both Disk Muncher and Disk Cruncher. About all I can remember of it is that it would copy 5.25" disks in 4 passes and would recognize a 16K II+ RAM expansion. Does anyone out there remember this program? Is it legal to distribute it? What company published it? E-mail replies welcome. -- __ _____________ __ \ \_\ \__ __/ /_/ / "It can give you strength, it can make you weak." \greg@hoss.unl.edu/ "Moles, that does not compute." \_\ \_\|_|/_/ /_/ --Miles and Edgar on love, _Electric Dreams_
unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (The Unknown User) (10/19/90)
In article <1990Oct18.183332.1697@hoss.unl.edu> greg@hoss.unl.edu (Hammer) writes: >I remember seeing a disk copy program called both Disk Muncher and Disk >Cruncher. About all I can remember of it is that it would copy 5.25" >disks in 4 passes and would recognize a 16K II+ RAM expansion. Does >anyone out there remember this program? Is it legal to distribute it? >What company published it? I'm almost positive that Disk Muncher and Disk Cruncher (they were two different programs I think) are simply public domain (or at most freeware) programs written by someone and distributed over modems... (probably some 'kid' wrote it too). Like DDDpro... Remember that? After most of the DDDs came out (but before 5.0), then DDDpro and a few other programs that would handle the REL files that DDD made... (There was one that sort of "faked" a desktop environment.. That was PBH I remember.. Pretty Boy Hack or something like that) But back to my point about DDDpro.. Know who wrote that? Andy Nicholas. Yes, -the- Andy Nicholas of ShrinkIT/ShrinkIT GS fame. [And Brian Greenestone wrote a shareware game that's copyrighted 1985 I think]. I probably still have Disk Muncher and/or Disk Cruncher around here. I try to keep a lot of the old programs... Mostly for "old time's sake", since there are usually newer and better things to do the same thing (and often newer programs will deal with the files made by the older programs)... DigiCopy GS is sort of the evolution of Disk Muncher for the GS... -- / Apple II(GS) Forever! unknown@ucscb.ucsc.edu \ \"If cartoons were meant for adults, they'd be on in prime time."-Lisa Simpson/
6600prao@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Parik Rao) (10/19/90)
Andy Nicholas did only a bit of DDDPro, it was mostly written by Doug "I forgot his last name". :) The nicest thing about it was that it was ProDOS based. Unfortunately the thing wasn't accepted, it had a few minor bugs (like not remembering a dos 3.3 volume name...) Make that vol. number.
dnelson@mthvax.cs.miami.edu (Dru Nelson) (10/19/90)
Disk Muncher was done by THE STACK of Corrupt Computing. It is a great program for copying, but not packing. I have never heard of Disk Cruncher, but there probably was one. There were a lot of disk packers around over the years. Keep the faith. -- %% Dru Nelson %% Miami, FL %% Internet: dnelson@mthvax.cs.miami.edu %%
christer@cs.umu.se (Christer Ericson) (10/19/90)
In article <7964@darkstar.ucsc.edu> unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (The Unknown User) writes: > >In article <1990Oct18.183332.1697@hoss.unl.edu> greg@hoss.unl.edu (Hammer) writes: >>I remember seeing a disk copy program called both Disk Muncher and Disk >>Cruncher. About all I can remember of it is that it would copy 5.25" >>disks in 4 passes and would recognize a 16K II+ RAM expansion. Does >>anyone out there remember this program? Is it legal to distribute it? >>What company published it? > > I'm almost positive that Disk Muncher and Disk Cruncher (they were >two different programs I think) are simply public domain (or at most freeware) >programs written by someone and distributed over modems... (probably some 'kid' >wrote it too). > >[stuff deleted] Disk Muncher was written by The Stack of Corrupt Computing, a Michigan-based (i believe) pirate gang, who also wrote Advanced Demuffin which was a highly acclaimed cracking tool back in the good ol' days (it was in the spirit of Demuffin and Disk Jockey's COPYB, only much better). These programs were widely distrubuted inbetween pirates and on BBSs and with the philosophy of pirates in mind, I think it is safe to say that it is OK to distribute it as long as there is no charge involved. >/ Apple II(GS) Forever! unknown@ucscb.ucsc.edu \ >\"If cartoons were meant for adults, they'd be on in prime time."-Lisa Simpson/ /Christer | Christer Ericson Internet: christer@cs.umu.se [130.239.1.101] | | Department of Computer Science, University of Umea, S-90187 UMEA, Sweden | | "9600<C600.C6FFM 96F8:4C 59 FF N 9600G" -Mr. Xerox |
marekp@pnet91.cts.com (Marek Pawlowski) (10/22/90)
6600prao@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Parik Rao) writes: > > Andy Nicholas did only a bit of DDDPro, it was >mostly written by Doug "I forgot his last name". :) >The nicest thing about it was that it was ProDOS >based. Unfortunately the thing wasn't accepted, it >had a few minor bugs (like not remembering a dos 3.3 >volume name...) > >Make that vol. number. Didn't a character by the name of "Louis Roy" from Montreal, have something to do with the DDD series? I suppose it's ttime to dig out all those ancient disks, and hunt through the credits. || - Marek Pawlowski - || Intelligent Twist Software || You like bang-paths? || || marekp@contact.uucp || 250 Harding Blvd. || || || root@aunix.uucp || PO Box 32017 || uunet!contact!marekp || || marekp@generic.uucp || Richmond Hill, Ontario || || || marekp@pnet91.uucp || L4C 9M7 CANADA || ||
unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (The Unknown User) (10/23/90)
In article <28@generic.UUCP> marekp@pnet91.cts.com (Marek Pawlowski) writes: >6600prao@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Parik Rao) writes: > > Andy Nicholas did only a bit of DDDPro, it was >mostly written by Doug "I forgot his last name". :) >The nicest thing about it was that it was ProDOS >based. Unfortunately the thing wasn't accepted, it >had a few minor bugs (like not remembering a dos 3.3 >volume name...) > >Make that vol. number. Didn't a character by the name of "Louis Roy" from Montreal, have something to do with the DDD series? I suppose it's ttime to dig out all those ancient disks, and hunt through the credits. Yes you're right, but we're talking about DDDPro. -- / Apple II(GS) Forever! unknown@ucscb.ucsc.edu \ \"If cartoons were meant for adults, they'd be on in prime time."-Lisa Simpson/
jeffn@nuchat.UUCP (Jeff Noxon) (10/23/90)
In article <28@generic.UUCP> marekp@pnet91.cts.com (Marek Pawlowski) writes: |Didn't a character by the name of "Louis Roy" from Montreal, have something to |do with the DDD series? I suppose it's ttime to dig out all those ancient |disks, and hunt through the credits. Louis Roy, aka Dalton, wrote the original DDD packers for DOS 3.3 as well as DDD Deluxe. Many people disassembled his DOS packer once it became accepted and then pirate groups kept changing the version number and putting their BBS numbers and so forth on it. This also led to the ill-fated 3.5" DDD that ran under DOS. It was soon replaced by ProPacker 5.3c and then DDD Pro and DigiPack. We now all use ShrinkIt, of course. Thanks, Andy! DDD Pro didn't last because it was shareware and Roy's ego was bigger than his packer's functionality. I once had the misfortune of programming with the guy, and he is something else. Pretty wierd guy. He's not from Montreal. I forgot where in Canada he is, but it hurt my phone bill when I was working with him. Parik: Doug Brandon is the name you're searching for, I believe. Jeff -- Jeff Noxon | Nothing is forever, jeffn@nuchat.sccsi.com | Not even the Apple II! 713/721-6820 (CDT) Houston, TX | There's a whole world out there.
marekp@pnet91.cts.com (Marek Pawlowski) (10/25/90)
> He's not from Montreal.
Then I wonder why the shareware fees were to be sent to Montreal. Sheesh, you
Yanks and yer Canadian geography! :)
(BTW, Jeff, UUCP = almost there)
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