[comp.sys.apple2] internet

cmorgan@ooc.uva.nl (Chris Morgan/RIKS) (09/27/90)

Can anyone explain - in detail - how I can get the whealth of public domain
or shareware software floating around the InterNet onto my Apple2e ???

I have a connection to News via a Sun UNIX workstation using a Macintosh
running NCSA Telnet as a terminal.

What do I need to know about binary/text modes, encode/decode software etc ???

I know that using the Macintosh File Exchange software I can convert from
ProDos to Mac but is that the same as the AppleDos on my Apple ??? Also my
Apple only has 2 x 5 1/4" floppy drives.

Can someone untangle the forest of InterNet jargon for me...please.


Chris Morgan
cmorgan@ooc.uva.nl

mlyons@pro-truckstop.cts.com (Handles, SysOp) (10/20/90)

Attention all InterNet users; Sour Grapes.

** FLAME ON **

I'm a ProLine SysOp which can interface with UNIX computers and have
asked our local University, (USF) University of South Florida, to allow
me to pull some feeds from them.  At first I was told that I could,
then they put in a new computer, and a change of staff.  With that I
was told in a harsh way, NO!.

Why?  I was told its a conflict of interest,  What?  How?  These schools
of so called higher learning think that a lowly Apple IIGS can't possibly
use any feeds?  or receive them from their computer?  I only wanted Apple
II, Macintosh and a few UNIX feeds. (BTW: My system is totally free, 
except for donations).

I was told that other systems get the feeds because they donate moneys
and equipment to this university, so we give them access to the feeds. I 
was told there so called super computer can't be bothered with feeds to 
a small system for free. I thought the internet was free.

I also know that it cost them money to use there computer and that they
give the feeds to other systems, so what is the difference?  So what if 
other small local systems would like to recieve the feeds too.  A couple 
of small system could like a IBM, Amaga etc, sysops could use the local 
feeds too. Just one system per computer type or say 5 local systems could 
call and distribute them to the other sites that want them locally.

So as a show of support for my cause, call USF TECH support, voice 813/974
-3307 or fax 813/974-3149  or thu this group, E-mail malek@sol.usf.edu . 

** FLAME OFF **

Bitter; Any Comments? 

America OnLine : Handles           | Remember Viet Nam? Remember our MIAs!
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rang@cs.wisc.edu (Anton Rang) (10/22/90)

In article <5165@crash.cts.com> mlyons@pro-truckstop.cts.com (Handles, SysOp) writes:
>I thought the internet was free.

  It isn't.  Typically a connection runs about $10,000/year or more
(it depends on your regional network's policy).  Also, use of the
NSFnet backbone is technically restricted to NSFNet-sponsored
research, though this isn't enforced (at the moment).  Most of the
regional networks are more liberal, but NSF requires that by 1996 or
thereabouts (I don't recall the exact date) the regional networks have
the capability to keep non-NSF traffic off of the NSFNet itself
(presumably nearby regional nets will run their own gateways between
themselves, paid for by their members).

	Anton
   
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penguin@gnh-igloo.cts.com (Mark Steiger) (10/25/90)

That's pretty low when a State college does that.  We are already paying for
their equiment with our taxes, aren't we????


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