unknown@ucscb.ucsc.edu (The Unknown User) (10/20/90)
This really isn't anything new, but I thought a few people might find it interesting. On "The Computer Chronicles," a weekly PBS show about computers (about 75% IBM, and 25% Mac usually), they did an episode about the 'revitalized home market'. They did a segment on the PS/1.. They showed some other computer, and then they did the new Macs.. They had someone from Apple showing them off and they asked her if she thought that the new Macs would be home computers (something to that effect).. She said something like Apple thought they'd do well as home computers as well as business computers. OBVIOUSLY it's a "generic" marketing answer, but it's still kinda funny when you realize Apple doesn't usually admit a home market exists.. They also did a report on the Commodore 64 computer... They called it "the granddaddy of personal computers"... Sheesh.. What about the Apple II??? Commodore 64s are still being sold in Toys R Us stores.. One store said they sell like 5 a month. JEEZ! That sounds like nothing, but if you figure out how many Toys R Us stores there are, that's probably a couple hundred a month AT LEAST for a non-advertized machine.. (Boy that last part sounds familiar huh?) They made a SMALL mention of the Apple II card for the LC (I believe that's the right one). The lady said something that I don't remember exactly but it really sounded funny... It seemed as she was sort of pitying people who bought Apple IIs! Obviously it wasn't meant that way (or WAS it??!?!?!?! Big conspiracy?!?!?! heh), but she said something like "Well we really feel for the people who bought Apple IIs and have software".. BUT THEN they show what I believe they said was a HYPERCARD program that read Peter Rabbit.. You could click on the rabbits and it would way which one it was, and it would color each phrase as it read the story... Seems strange. Unless I'm wrong, they don't even SHOW the //e card running! Do you have to run special software on the Mac end or does it actually scan the 5.25" drive upon bootup? Also, this is about the show itself.. Does anyone know what happened to Gary Kildall [I believe the father of CP/M and a few companies]??? -- / Apple II(GS) Forever! unknown@ucscb.ucsc.edu \ \"If cartoons were meant for adults, they'd be on in prime time."-Lisa Simpson/
ART100@psuvm.psu.edu (Andy Tefft) (10/23/90)
In article <8024@darkstar.ucsc.edu>, unknown@ucscb.ucsc.edu (The Unknown User) says: > >remember exactly but it really sounded funny... It seemed as she was >sort of pitying people who bought Apple IIs! Obviously it wasn't >meant that way (or WAS it??!?!?!?! Big conspiracy?!?!?! heh), but she Probably it was her personal pity that showed up there... Mac-brainwashed people always tend to pity those of us who are not chained to a mouse. On the other hand, I tend to pity those who are mac-brainwashed and never learned anything more than point-and-click.
mcgurrin@MWUNIX.MITRE.ORG (10/24/90)
When it comes to games (an important part of the home market) it seems the lowly C64 is much better supported than the II. This has always surprised me, but most stores I go to have larger C64 sections than II sections, and a quick glance through any issue of Computer Gaming World over the last several years will show this to be true. CGW is oriented more towards strategy games, and I'd say that most support in terms of game software is MS-DOS, followed by Amiga, then C64 and Mac, then the II. Pretty sad...
$CSD211@LSUVM.BITNET (Mark Orr) (10/25/90)
>When it comes to games (an important part of the home market) it seems the >lowly C64 is much better supported than the II. This has always surprised >me, but most stores I go to have larger C64 sections than II sections, and >a quick glance through any issue of Computer Gaming World over the last >several years will show this to be true. CGW is oriented more towards >strategy games, and I'd say that most support in terms of game software is >MS-DOS, followed by Amiga, then C64 and Mac, then the II. Pretty sad... You know what is even more pathetic...pick up a copy of RUN magazine (the main magazine for the C64). What will you see in it's editorials? CRITICISM OF COMMODORE. This magazine is produced by the International Data Group Communications (IDG), WHICH ALSO PRODUCES INCIDER MAGAZINE; in which you never see criticism of Apple policies (in the eyes of Dan (Quayle) Muse, InCider's editor, John Sculley is a megagenius, and the Macintosh is your friend) ---------------------------- Mark Orr ! $CSD211@LSUVM.SNCC.LSU.EDU ! ----------------------------
rankins@argentina (raymond r rankins) (10/25/90)
In article <9010251129.AA16026@apple.com>, $CSD211@LSUVM (Mark Orr) writes: >.... This magazine is produced by the International >Data Group Communications (IDG), WHICH ALSO PRODUCES INCIDER MAGAZINE; >in which you never see criticism of Apple policies (in the eyes of >Dan (Quayle) Muse, InCider's editor, John Sculley is a megagenius, and >the Macintosh is your friend) > Of course you won't now. Incider is going to become a Mac/AppleII magazine after the first of the year. They don't want to be offending a potentially major advertiser (especially with all the money Apple is supposed to be spending on advertising the new Macs). I wouldn't be surprised to see Mac ads in the December issue of Incider. I saw that whole editorial as a set-up for the transition of Incider to becoming a Mac/AppleII mag. Ray Ray Rankins |(518) 387-7174 | INTERNET: rankins@argentina.crd.ge.com 2 Moonglow Rd. |(518) 583-3320 | COMPUSERVE: 71131,3236 Gansevoort, NY 12831 | | AmericaOnline: RayRankins <insert standard disclaimer here> | GEnie: R.Rankins
alfter@uns-helios.nevada.edu (SCOTT ALFTER) (10/26/90)
In article <9010251129.AA16026@apple.com> $CSD211@LSUVM.BITNET (Mark Orr) writes: >You know what is even more pathetic...pick up a copy of RUN magazine >(the main magazine for the C64). What will you see in it's editorials? >CRITICISM OF COMMODORE. This magazine is produced by the International >Data Group Communications (IDG), WHICH ALSO PRODUCES INCIDER MAGAZINE; >in which you never see criticism of Apple policies (in the eyes of >Dan (Quayle) Muse, InCider's editor, John Sculley is a megagenius, and >the Macintosh is your friend) Of course--why do you think _InCider_ will be getting a Mac section in '91? It's one more thing to dislike about _InCider_, I suppose; I never got a subscription because I didn't like what I saw of _InCider_ on the magazine racks in bookstores. Maybe everyone who has an _Incider_ subscription should cancel before the end of the year and get _Nibble_, which will remain as the only Apple II-specific magazine (not counting _A2-Central_, which bills itself as a newsletter). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Scott Alfter _/_ / v \ Apple II: Internet: alfter@uns-helios.nevada.edu ( ( the power to be your best! GEnie: S.ALFTER \_^_/
araftis@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU (Alex Raftis) (10/26/90)
In article <2202@unsvax.NEVADA.EDU> alfter@uns-helios.uucp (SCOTT ALFTER) writes: >Of course--why do you think _InCider_ will be getting a Mac section in '91? >It's one more thing to dislike about _InCider_, I suppose; I never got a >subscription because I didn't like what I saw of _InCider_ on the magazine >racks in bookstores. Maybe everyone who has an _Incider_ subscription should >cancel before the end of the year and get _Nibble_, which will remain as the >only Apple II-specific magazine (not counting _A2-Central_, which bills itself >as a newsletter). > Actually, InCider carrying Mac Stuff is not all that new. During the first year or so, InCider carried articles about the Mac. They finally stopped doing this only when Mac specific magazines began to appear on the shelves. -- -------------------------------------------------- Internet: araftis@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU America Online: xela (Real Life: Alex Raftis)
MQUINN%UTCVM@PUCC.PRINCETON.EDU (10/26/90)
On Thu, 25 Oct 90 16:40:34 GMT raymond r rankins said: >Of course you won't now. Incider is going to become a Mac/AppleII magazine >after the first of the year. They don't want to be offending a potentially >major advertiser (especially with all the money Apple is supposed to >be spending on advertising the new Macs). I wouldn't be surprised >to see Mac ads in the December issue of Incider. I saw that whole editorial >as a set-up for the transition of Incider to becoming a Mac/AppleII mag. You're probably right. I remember back in '85 when A+ used to be an 'Apple' magazine... They had a part of the magazine dedicated to the Mac, but when the GS came along, they dropped the Mac Stuff completely.... Now that their Magazine COMBINED with Incider has nearly shrunk to the size of brochure, I'm sure they'll stick the Mac stuff back in. >Ray > >Ray Rankins |(518) 387-7174 | INTERNET: rankins@argentina.crd.ge.com >2 Moonglow Rd. |(518) 583-3320 | COMPUSERVE: 71131,3236 >Gansevoort, NY 12831 | | AmericaOnline: RayRankins ><insert standard disclaimer here> | GEnie: R.Rankins ____________________________________________________________________ | | | | This is your brain... | BITNET-- mquinn@utcvm | | This is your brain on drugs... | pro-line: | | This is your brain on whole wheat.| mquinn@pro-gsplus.cts.com | |____________________________________|_______________________________|
MQUINN%UTCVM@PUCC.PRINCETON.EDU (10/26/90)
On Thu, 25 Oct 90 22:04:49 GMT SCOTT ALFTER said: >racks in bookstores. Maybe everyone who has an _Incider_ subscription should >cancel before the end of the year and get _Nibble_, which will remain as the >only Apple II-specific magazine (not counting _A2-Central_, which bills itself >as a newsletter). Don't forget GS+. Although it's not an 8-bit II magzine, it's a II(GS) magazin e. :) >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Scott Alfter _/_ > / v \ Apple II: >Internet: alfter@uns-helios.nevada.edu ( ( the power to be your best! > GEnie: S.ALFTER \_^_/ ____________________________________________________________________ | | | | This is your brain... | BITNET-- mquinn@utcvm | | This is your brain on drugs... | pro-line: | | This is your brain on whole wheat.| mquinn@pro-gsplus.cts.com | |____________________________________|_______________________________|
shankar@SRC.Honeywell.COM (Subash Shankar) (10/27/90)
In article <2202@unsvax.NEVADA.EDU> alfter@uns-helios.uucp (SCOTT ALFTER) writes: > Maybe everyone who has an _Incider_ subscription should >cancel before the end of the year and get _Nibble_, which will remain as the >only Apple II-specific magazine (not counting _A2-Central_, which bills itself >as a newsletter). And 8/16 (an *excellent II specific magazine) and GS+ --- Subash Shankar Honeywell Systems & Research Center MN65-2100 voice: (612) 782 7558 US Snail: 3660 Technology Dr., Minneapolis, MN 55418 shankar@src.honeywell.com srcsip!shankar