[comp.sys.apple2] Conversion

JKT100@psuvm.psu.edu (JKT) (10/26/90)

A friend of mine has a large (18,000 records) database in dBase IV
on the AppleIIe which he needs to convert to dBase (any version) on
the PC.  This database is obviously too large to retype, and would
be a major headache to even re-format by hand.

Is there a conversion program that will let us use this database
in dBase on the PC?

Failing that, what would be the best way to transfer the file(s)
from Apple II to PC?  I know we could transfer via modem, but are
there more direct and speedier methods?  Any packages that would
let us read/write Apple II disks on IBM or vice versa?
Maybe connect an Apple II drive to PC or PC drive to Apple II?

Thank you for any replies;  feel free to post here or e-mail
as you choose.  :-)

                                                Kurt Tappe
                                                jkt100@psuvm.psu.edu
                                                jkt100@psuvm.bitnet

MQUINN%UTCVM@PUCC.PRINCETON.EDU (10/26/90)

On Thu, 25 Oct 90 22:06:12 GMT JKT said:
>Failing that, what would be the best way to transfer the file(s)
>from Apple II to PC?  I know we could transfer via modem, but are
>there more direct and speedier methods?  Any packages that would
>let us read/write Apple II disks on IBM or vice versa?
>Maybe connect an Apple II drive to PC or PC drive to Apple II?

You could use a PC Transporter from AE or use the Apple File exchange on
a Mac.  OR, use that Trackstart board that Radio Trash makes... it's a //e
board inside an IBM.... the PC Transporter (if you didn't know) is just the
opposite, an IBM inside an Apple II+,//e,IIGS
I don't know of any 'software' that handle it, except Apple file exchange.

>
>Thank you for any replies;  feel free to post here or e-mail
>as you choose.  :-)
>
>                                                Kurt Tappe
>                                                jkt100@psuvm.psu.edu
>                                                jkt100@psuvm.bitnet

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wew@naucse.cse.nau.edu (Bill Wilson) (10/27/90)

From article <90298.180612JKT100@psuvm.psu.edu>, by JKT100@psuvm.psu.edu (JKT):
> A friend of mine has a large (18,000 records) database in dBase IV
> on the AppleIIe which he needs to convert to dBase (any version) on
> the PC.  This database is obviously too large to retype, and would
> be a major headache to even re-format by hand.
>

I think you may have gotten a miracle to work.  dBASE IV on an
Apple IIE?  I thought they only released dBASE IV for MSDOS
machines...  If you mean dBASE II (the one for CP/M on an Apple),
then there are some ways to move the data.  The first thing
that you can do, is to buy an Apple card such as the Matchpoint
card from Microsolutions.  The card costs $195 and allows your
existing 5 1/4" PC drive to read and write Apple disks.  Another
solution would be to get Kermit for both machines and then
use the Kermit binary file transfer to transfer the data.  The last 
choice would be to pay someone to transfer the data for you.  I
would be willing to for $15 per disk, if no other formatting
was necessary.  Most transfer can only be made from the top
(side 0) side of an Apple disk.  Flippy disks do not work on
an IBM unless there is a timing hole in the right spot on
both sides.
 
> Is there a conversion program that will let us use this database
> in dBase on the PC?
>

Once it is on the PC, dBASE comes with a conversion program to 
translate dBASE II files to III/IV format.
 
I can also handle Mac disks, CP/M in almost any size, and some 
others.

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MQUINN%UTCVM@PUCC.PRINCETON.EDU (10/27/90)

On Fri, 26 Oct 90 18:15:02 GMT Bill Wilson said:
>existing 5 1/4" PC drive to read and write Apple disks.  Another
>solution would be to get Kermit for both machines and then
>use the Kermit binary file transfer to transfer the data.  The last

This would also work with virtually any term programs, as long as they have
a protocal in common. (i.e. xmodem to xmodem, or ymodem to ymodem, or zmodem
to zmodem, etc.)

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taob@pnet91.uucp (Brian Tao) (10/29/90)

> You could use a PC Transporter from AE or use the Apple File exchange on
> a Mac.  OR, use that Trackstart board that Radio Trash makes... it's a //e
> board inside an IBM.... the PC Transporter (if you didn't know) is just the
> opposite, an IBM inside an Apple II+,//e,IIGS
> I don't know of any 'software' that handle it, except Apple file exchange.

    I think a serial-cable transfer would be easiest, although you WOULD have
to physically bring both computers together.  You would have to find a Mac
with a high-density drive (like a Mac II or a Mac SE/30) to write out an
MS-DOS disk.  The normal 800K drives in the Mac Plus and SE won't work.

BT

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