taob@pro-micol.cts.com (Brian Tao) (10/21/90)
I have a very urgent question concerning FTL's excellent game, Dungeon Master. I noticed that there are "Altars of Rebirth" along the way down, but how does one use such a structure? One of my heroes died a rather sudden death, and I want to know if there is ANY way of reviving her. Silly me, I didn't save the game since 3 levels ago... :( BT
tg.exc@pro-harvest.cts.com (Terry Guelfo) (10/22/90)
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Subject: altars of rebirth and a character who suddenly died.
Just pick up the bones, and place them IN the altar. It's a really neat
effect.. lightning zaps from the two yellow things inside the altar... well,
just do it and see for yourself <grin>.
BTW: is there any truth to the rumor that a Dungeon Master II might be in the
works? That would be most excellent. I sent in my software registration
card, but have received no updates etc concerning the software updates and/or
new releases. Actually, it is quite typical, so I shouldn't complain.
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On Sat, 20 Oct 90 21:21:45 EDT you said: > I have a very urgent question concerning FTL's excellent game, Dungeon >Master. I noticed that there are "Altars of Rebirth" along the way down, but >how does one use such a structure? One of my heroes died a rather sudden >death, and I want to know if there is ANY way of reviving her. Silly me, I >didn't save the game since 3 levels ago... :( > >BT Brian, What you do is put the bones of your dear deceased onto the altar and as Tegan on Doctor Who would say, ZAP!!!! Your adventurer will be brought back but with none of the stuff he/she had. You will have to return to the scene of the death inorder to get all their stuff back. Hope that helps. This is a great game isn't it? I took a break from it when I got to level 12, where you have to face monsters that can become invisible. I will get back to it soon, but I needed a break. What level are you on anyway? If you need any cheats, I have some that I will be happy to pass on. Later for now, ________________________________________________________________________ George A. Piotrowski, Coordinator CREN/Bitnet: V2071A@TEMPLEVM Educational Computing Center Internet: v2071a@vm.temple.edu Temple University America Online: GaPio Philadelphia, PA 19122 Compu$erve: 74046,1304 (215) 787-6228 Genie: G.PIOTROWSKI Doc Brown: Obviously, the Time Continuum has been disrupted creating this New Temporal Event Sequence resulting in this Alternate Reality! ________________________________________________________________________ Acknowledge-To: <V2071A@VM.TEMPLE.EDU>
6600prao@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Parik Rao) (10/23/90)
Chaos Strikes Back, a expansion set for DUngeon Master is out for the atari and should be out for the amiga and IBM. They have no plans to port it to the Apple IIgs at this moment due to fairly dismal sales (but what can be expected; FTL never advertised the game!). Dungeon Master II is a different which game is supposed to be released sometime next year and should take the genre a lot furthur. Unfortunately it may also never be released for their GS. Their GS programmer left the company after DM GS.
bill@pro-gateway.cts.com (Bill Long, SysOp) (10/23/90)
In-Reply-To: message from tg.exc@pro-harvest.cts.com > BTW: is there any truth to the rumor that a Dungeon Master II might be in > the works? That would be most excellent. I sent in my software DM II? I haven't even finished I! BTW: Does anybody out there have or know where I can get a map of all the levels of Dungeon Master? I *hate* mapping and I'm not very good at it either. ProLine: bill@pro-gateway | Pro-Gateway Internet: bill@pro-gateway.cts.com | Dallas, TX UUCP: crash!pro-gateway!bill | 214-644-5113 ARPA: crash!pro-gateway!bill@nosc.mil | 3/12/2400 baud BITNET: bill%pro-gateway.cts.com@nosc.mil | -Maturity is overrated-
alb@cognos.UUCP (Al Belyea) (10/24/90)
In article <5194@crash.cts.com> tg.exc@pro-harvest.cts.com (Terry Guelfo) writes: > Is there a Dungeon Master II in the works? There is already a DMII out on the Atari (a friend at work has had it for quite awhile now), although I can't remember what the name of it is. -- Allan Belyea UUCP: 3755 Riverside Dr. Cognos Incorporated alb@cognos P.O. Box 9707 (613) 738-1338 x3822 uunet!mitel!cunews!cognos!alb Ottawa, Ontario "... when in a Desparate situation, challenge." Sun Tzu CANADA K1G 3Z4
taob@pro-micol.cts.com (Brian Tao) (10/25/90)
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Dungeon Master II: Return of Chaos would be MOST EXCELLENT, as you put it!
I haven't heard anything regarding the sequel to Dungeon Master GS, in fact, I
have not heard any news at all regarding FTL Games. DM II is available for
the IBM (has been for quite some time now) but I haven't seen it for the Amiga
or the Atari ST either, so maybe we're not alone in this. Looks like another
company to target with a letter-writing campaign!!! :-)
On that subject, does anyone know if Origin Systems is DEFINITELY writing
Ultima VI for the Apple II (and a GS-specific version)?
BTtaob@pro-micol.cts.com (Brian Tao) (10/25/90)
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I am positive I tried that tactic in my first trip down (this is my second
venture into the dungeons...). I placed Zedbones onto the altar, stood a few
squares back (just in case!) and nothing happened. Rather disappointed, a
threw his bones into a pit, to "bury" his remains. I picked up the game from
the last saved position and I have regained all my lost ground in much less
time, so all is well.
As for cheats, DON'T SEND ME ANY!!! :) That would take all the fun out
of solving the puzzles. I couldn't figure out how to kill Chaos the first
time around, but someone blurted out the solution anyway. Grrrr... Anyway,
do you have a list of all the items in the dungeon? I noticed a few things
enhance your attributes, none of which are mentioned in the manual. The Mace
Of Order increase your strength (and carrying capacity) by about +3.
Gothmog's Cloak of Night increases Dexterity by +8 (!). Elven boots add 4 kg
to your maximum load. Have you figured out what some of the other treasures
do? You find things like a Moonstone, or a Magnifier, or an Ekhard Cross, but
I can't determine their function (if they have one at all).
I've made it all the way down once before, but as I've said, I couldn't
kill Chaos, so I was stuck on the 13th level (killed the dragon on the 14th).
I missed one of the keys to the Tomb of the Firestaff, so I guess I can't
complete the game without it (since you need it to defeat Chaos).
The monsters with the tentacles which turn invisible aren't that difficult
to get rid of. Just store up 6th-level Dispel Creature spells (Des Ew I
believe) and zap them when they are solid. I think the Vorpal Blade is also
effective against them. I find the knights are the hardest to kill, with all
that heavy armour on them!
BTtaob@pro-micol.cts.com (Brian Tao) (10/25/90)
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Would think another letter-writing campaign will be able to convince FTL
to write it for the GS? The basic code and screens for all four versions
should be practically identical, with additional machine-specific enhancements
for each version. I saw the IBM version at Mr. Diskette (a franchised
hardware/software retailer) about 6 months ago. It includes context-sensitive
hints and a character icon editor (among other things). Maybe I can get
someone with an IBM to buy it, and we'll swap computers for a month to play
each other's games...
BTgwyn@smoke.BRL.MIL (Doug Gwyn) (10/25/90)
In article <88.apple.ii.csa2.net@pro-gateway> bill@pro-gateway.cts.com (Bill Long, SysOp) writes: >Does anybody out there have or know where I can get a map of all the >levels of Dungeon Master? Quite some time ago I lifted a set from CompuServe (or perhaps Genie). They were in the Apple II file directory and were SHR ($C1) files. Use a keyword search to find them.
DNALIB@CASTOR.LDC.LU.SE (Magnus Olsson) (10/25/90)
While we're discussing Dungeon Master, I thought I'd have the nerve to ask a few questions. Warning! Spoilers follow - press 'n' now if you haven't reached level 14 yet! (I'm being deliberately vague below so I won't spoil the fun for anyone who hasn't already solved these problems. In particular, I'm talking about "thingies" instead of calling things by their real name) After three weeks of playing, I finally reached level 14 and snatched the power thingy from the dragon. Having already found the rioght thingy on the seventh level, I joined them to get what seems to be the ultimate weapon. I then found that all exits from level 13 have been blocked. The dragon seemed completely impossible to kill, so I'm concentrating on level 13. I've killed all the monsters there except the shadowy fellow. Am I correct in assuming that killing him is the object of the game? And how do I kill him? I zapped him with the "combined thingies" for at least fifteen minutes and though it seems he took some damage, he's still alive and kicking (very much so - I let my guard slip for a moment and he killed Boris, Tiggy and Zed, so now Elija is trying to fight it out alone). Also, when I wield the "combined thingy", I get a menu with "Invoke, Fuse, Phase Cage". It's rather clear whjat "invoke" does, but what are the other two commands good for? I'd be grateful for some hints (have to finish the game quickly so I can concentrate on my courses!) Magnus Olsson Internet: dnalib@castor.ldc.lu.se, dnalib@castor.sunet.se Bitnet: dnalib@selund Nordic DECnet: castor::dnalib
rb5q+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rafael L. Benzan, Jr.) (10/26/90)
I agree DM is an awesome game. I have yet to finish it thought. I
am on the last level fighting the Dark Lord. He has taken around 2-3
hours of continuous pummeling of anything and everything I could muster
and still lives because my party dies of starvation. Anyone know of a
way to beat him? Do fireballs affect him? What makes him tick?
I am using flux cages and stopping time on him but he takes soooooo
much damage and refuses to die.
Has anyone here beaten him yet? If so, how?macausla@newton.ccs.tuns.ca (Robert MacAusland) (10/26/90)
Doug Gwynn says: >In article <88.apple.ii.csa2.net@pro-gateway> bill@pro-gateway.cts.com (Bill >+ Long, SysOp) writes: >>Does anybody out there have or know where I can get a map of all the >>levels of Dungeon Master? > >Quite some time ago I lifted a set from CompuServe (or perhaps Genie). >They were in the Apple II file directory and were SHR ($C1) files. >Use a keyword search to find them. Could you post them in comp.binaries? -- /* Robert MacAusland -> macausla@newton.ccs.tuns.ca */
taob@pro-micol.cts.com (Brian Tao) (10/27/90)
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I have a the complete set of Dungeon Master maps which I can Binscii and
upload to comp.bin.apple2 if you want. It was done by some chap with the
Amiga version of DM, and the maps include all the doors, passageways, hidden
rooms, fake walls, traps, pits, switches and staircases. A very detailed
piece of work. They were originally in GIF format, but I've converted them to
640-mode type $C1 graphics. They are two screens tall, so you will need a
paint program like DeluxePaint II to view and print them (I don't think AWGS
will handle 640x400 pics).
BTtaob@pnet91.uucp (Brian Tao) (10/28/90)
As you have discovered, the fused Ultimate-Weapon-thingy is what you need
to demolish the shadowy dude. According to my DM tip sheet, you have to use a
Magical Box thingy to sort of "freeze" him, then use Cage on him, run around
to the other side of him (the black fuzzy side), Cage him again, then Fuse the
whole contraption together. Bingo, Chaos is history! Hope you understand
what I mean by all those "thingies"... ;-)
You should try killing the dragon. It's worth it (especially when you're
dying of hunger, hint, hint...)
BT
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INET: taob@pnet91.cts.comtaob@pnet91.uucp (Brian Tao) (10/28/90)
Read my post to Magnus Olsson previously... now, I haven't tried what I said, I'm just reading it off a tip sheet I grabbed from a local BBS. Remember that the flux cage only holds HALF of him... did you kill the dragon yet? You get around a dozen Dragonsteaks afterwards, enough to fill everyone up full! BT UUCP: torag!pnet91!taob INET: taob@pnet91.cts.com
tg.exc@pro-harvest.cts.com (Terry Guelfo) (10/28/90)
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Well, I'll tell you... hit Next or Skip if you don't want to read this....
To kill the Knights, lure them to the pits... when they step over a closed
pit, step OFF of the "trigger" or pressure plate and they'll fall in and die.
I have a list of items and their usefulness. Would you like it? It is a text
file and I could send it to you via email, if you'd like.
Terry
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I have the complete SHR maps for Dungeon Master GS. If anyone is interested
in them, leave email to me (my sig follows) and I'll give you my mailing
address. Send me a blank 3.5" and a buck and I'll mail them to you. The
disk is much too full for me to send it to Apple Binaries AGAIN, and now
especially since I'm at 1200 at this particular board.
BTW: I'm not selling them.. the buck is for POSTAGE.
Terry
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In-Reply-To: message from macausla@newton.ccs.tuns.ca
As I said before, I myself had posted them to comp.binaries some time ago.
Email me and I'll give you a mailing address. If you like, send me a blank
3.5" and a buck for postage and I'll send you the disk full of maps and hints.
If you don't have a blank disk, just send me two bucks and I'll provide the
disk.
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I just uploaded (in 8 parts) the Dungeon Master maps for all 14 levels
(doesn't include the baby dungeon, though, sorry! ;-) ) I also put in a tip
sheet that appeared on one of the local BBS's, so if you're stuck at a certain
level, this text file will give you some hints. I know the first four made it
out the door, but I'm still waiting to see if the next four will get out the
gateway... shouldn't be any problems.
BT
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Better yet, I have a set of maps that were done ON the GS.. 320 mode, very
colorful, very detailed, and they are only one screen tall. NOt only that, I
set up my disk so it is a slide show type thing. However, you can load them
into any paint program and print them out if you'd like.
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-- From the hit simsense, _Hamlet 2050_, Elan Vital Productions.magnus%thep.lu.se@Urd.lth.se (Magnus Olsson) (10/30/90)
In article <45@generic.UUCP> taob@pnet91.uucp (Brian Tao) writes: > > As you have discovered, the fused Ultimate-Weapon-thingy is what you need >to demolish the shadowy dude. According to my DM tip sheet, you have to use a >Magical Box thingy to sort of "freeze" him [stuff deleted] Thanks for the help! (I've tried mailing you but the mail just bounces). There's just one small point: Magic boxes don't work on him - you'll have to be very quick and surround him with cages. Being in a small room helps. Magnus (aka dnalib@castro.ldc.lu.se)
taob@pnet91.cts.com (Brian Tao) (11/01/90)
magnus%thep.lu.se@Urd.lth.se (Magnus Olsson) writes: >Thanks for the help! (I've tried mailing you but the mail just bounces). >There's just one small point: Magic boxes don't work on him - you'll have to be >very quick and surround him with cages. Being in a small room helps. > > >Magnus > >(aka dnalib@castro.ldc.lu.se) Are you sure magic boxes are ineffective? I had a couple left over after demolishing the dragon, and I'm positive they work on Chaos as well. By the way, I _did_ get your letter through e-mail (a couple of days ago), but my reply bounced immediately. It was the mailer's fault, but that's fixed now. Since I'm here, I won't bother re-sending my e-mail reply. Have you been down to the bottom of the express staircase? I think even after you get the Power Gem, the Firestaff and kill Chaos, there is still that darned keyhole at the bottom of the stairs. There's a scroll about halfway down that reads "The only way out is another way in". Don't give me the solution! Just tell me if you've figured that one out! BT \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ | UUCP: torag!pnet91!taob | / WARNING: \ | INET: taob@pnet91.cts.com | \ / |-------------------------------| / Sig is under \ | | \ construction / | "That's it, that's all..." | /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ | |