Tabakal@ub.cc.umich.edu (10/17/90)
I'm somewhat surprised that no one has commented on the price for the
new Macintosh LC //e emulation card. Apple's press release states that
it will be available in March '91 for $199. I have to assume that
they will make no profit on a card for this price. Assume dealers
will get it for about half of that. So, Apple wants people to buy
the LC for the house and put the card in so kids can come home and
run Stickybear or Appleworks like they do in school. But, this
doesn't really address the basic deficiency in their strategy.
Schools aren't going to want to buy 1 Mac at around $1500 (school
discount) when they can buy 2 //es for that price. Unless Apple
discontinues production of the //e, it's not going to work.
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In article <6360169@ub.cc.umich.edu> Tabakal@ub.cc.umich.edu writes: >I'm somewhat surprised that no one has commented on the price for the >new Macintosh LC //e emulation card. Apple's press release states that >it will be available in March '91 for $199. I have to assume that >they will make no profit on a card for this price. Assume dealers >will get it for about half of that. So, Apple wants people to buy >the LC for the house and put the card in so kids can come home and >run Stickybear or Appleworks like they do in school. But, this >doesn't really address the basic deficiency in their strategy. >Schools aren't going to want to buy 1 Mac at around $1500 (school >discount) when they can buy 2 //es for that price. Unless Apple >discontinues production of the //e, it's not going to work. I suspect if the //e is discontinued, that Laser is going to have a field day... Either that or Tandy selling their low-end DOS box with a Trackstar emulator board; the K-12 educational software base is A2 plus DOS, not A2 plus Mac. My H.S.-teacher wife agrees with you about the un-likelihood of schools coughing up for LC's with emulators. They can 'empower' about three times as many desktops per dollar using //e's. I've forwarded some of the articles from the net about Apple pressuring schools into this route to her boss and her former boss, now the asst. superintendent for the school district. Hopefully they won't buy the line. I also plan to get involved with the PTO team at my daughter's school to make sure they don't get suckered as part of Apple's current supermarket promotion. Bob Halloran ========================================================================= Internet: rkh@mtune.dptg.att.com UUCP: att!mtune!rkh Disclaimer: If you think AT&T would have ME as a spokesman, you're crazed. "Apple II Forever"? Looks like Forever = 13 years, 6 months (4/15/77 - 10/15/90) =========================================================================
spock@wrkof.incom.de (Martin Georg) (10/18/90)
In article <6360169@ub.cc.umich.edu> Tabakal@ub.cc.umich.edu writes: >I'm somewhat surprised that no one has commented on the price for the >new Macintosh LC //e emulation card. Apple's press release states that >it will be available in March '91 for $199. I have to assume that >they will make no profit on a card for this price. Assume dealers >will get it for about half of that. So, Apple wants people to buy >the LC for the house and put the card in so kids can come home and >run Stickybear or Appleworks like they do in school. But, this >doesn't really address the basic deficiency in their strategy. >----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Todd A. Bakal All snappy sayings aside, > U of M Apple User's Group !Index will be updated > Ann Arbor, Michigan ASAP or my name's not... > > Internet: Tabakal@ub.cc.umich.edu FTP: ummts.cc.umich.edu > Tab@terminator.cc.umich.edu 35.1.1.43 (PC5:) > UUCP: ...!uunet!ub.cc.umich.edu!tabakal BITnet: Tabakal@UMICHUB Could someone, who has the complete text of the Apple Press release, please post that here. In Germany, we only get the Press releases from Apple Germany, and they are not going to sell the //e emulator board, so there was no mentioning about it... Thanks in advance Martin Georg, Frankfurt, Germany ----> Apple II forever! <----
stuckey@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Anthony Jerome Stuckey) (10/18/90)
I don`t have to worry about my high school dropping their IIe's and going to mac LC's. Eighteen months ago, they sold all 16 IIe's and bought MS-DOS clones. (AT's). Anthony J. Stuckey stuckey@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
traherne@murdu.oz (Richard Jordan) (11/09/90)
In article <1990Oct18.084731.23282@wrkof.incom.de> spock@wrkof.incom.de (Martin Georg) writes: >In article <6360169@ub.cc.umich.edu> Tabakal@ub.cc.umich.edu writes: >>I'm somewhat surprised that no one has commented on the price for the >>new Macintosh LC //e emulation card. Apple's press release states that >>it will be available in March '91 for $199. > >Could someone, who has the complete text of the Apple Press release, >please post that here. In Germany, we only get the Press releases from >Apple Germany, and they are not going to sell the //e emulator board, >so there was no mentioning about it... > >Martin Georg, >Frankfurt, Germany I don't think there has been a press release just about the card, but here are the tech details for the computer it works in: Subject: Macintosh LC specifications Message-ID: <9010152223.AA07115@apple.com> Date: 15 Oct 90 22:23:15 GMT Lines: 126 Approved: werner@rascal.ics.utexas.edu Posted: Mon Oct 15 15:23:15 1990 Resent-Message-Id: <9010161344.AA08205@rascal.ics.utexas.edu.> To: uunet!comp-sys-mac-announce@uunet.UU.NET Posted-Date: Mon, 15 Oct 90 15:23:15 -0700 To: comp-sys-mac-announce@cs.utexas.edu Resent-To: comp-sys-mac-announce@cs Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Oct 1990 8:44:23 CDT Resent-From: Werner Uhrig <werner@rascal.ics.utexas.edu> I pulled this down from Applelink this morning. In the US, call 1-800-538-9696 for the dealer nearest you. There will be limited availability of the Macintosh LC until late January or early February 1991. US suggested retail price: $2499 2Mb RAM, 1 FDHD floppy, 40Mb hard disk $ 199 Apple IIe card (available March 1991) $ 199 for LC 512K VRAM card (allowing use of more colors/grays on monitors) (available January 1991) Requires a monitor. Apple monitors supported are: $ 299 12" Monochrome $ 299 High Resolution Monochrome $ 599 12" Color $ 899 High Resolution RGB Monitor --Brian Bechtel blob@apple.com "I am not an authorized spokesperson for Apple Computer, Inc." ***** Macintosh LC: Technical Specifications Following are the technical specifications for the Macintosh LC. CENTRAL PROCESSING UNIT (CPU) - Microprocessor : 16 MHz MC68020 CPU MEMORY - 2, 4, or 10 MB RAM (Random Access Memory) 100 nanosecond DRAM - 512 Kbytes of ROM (Read-Only Memory) - 256 bytes of settable parameter memory KEYBOARD (not included) - Apple Keyboard or Apple Extended Keyboard can be connected through the Apple Desktop Bus port MOUSE - Apple Desktop Bus Mouse (ADB) mechanical tracking, optical shaft or contact encoding 100 +- 10 pulses per inch (3.94 +- 0.39 pulse per mm) of travel. DISK DRIVE - One 1.4 MB high-density (Apple SuperDrive) internal drive. Two internal, floppy drives are supported. The unit ships with the Apple SuperDrive, but the logic board also supports an 800K drive. HARD DISK DRIVE - 3.5" 40MB hard drive configuration is available. INTERFACES - One Apple Desktop Bus (ADB) connectors for keyboard, mouse, and low-speed input devices. - Internal 020 Direct Slot through a 96-pin Euro-DIN connector. - Two RS-232/RS-422 serial ports, 230.4K baud maximum (up to 0.920 Mbit per second if clocked externally). - Built-In Video DB-15 pin connector, supporting the following monitors: + Apple High-Resolution Monochrome Monitor at 2, 4, 16 and 256* grays + Apple Macintosh 12" Monochrome Monitor at 2, 4, 16 and 256* grays + AppleColor High-Resolution RGB Monitor at 2, 4, 16 and 256* colors/grays + Apple Macintosh 12" RGB Monitor at 2, 4, 16 and 256 colors/grays * requires 512K VRAM upgrade - SCSI interface - Monophonic sound port for external audio amplifier - Sound input port for monoaural sound input SOUND INPUT - Monaural 8-bit sound - Sound samples can be made at 22 or 11 kilohertz - Macintosh Audio Compression Expansion (MACE) sound utility, supporting 3:1 or 6:1 compression, which allows approximately half an hour of sound to stored on a single 40-megabyte hard disk. SOUND GENERATION - Monophonic 8-bit digital-analog conversin using 22-kilohertz sample rate - capable of supplying the same signal to both channels of stereo headphones or other stereo equipment through the sound jack. FAN - 10 CFM axial MICROPHONE Omnidirectional electret microphone ELECTRICAL REQUIRMENTS - Line voltage: 90 to 240 volts AC, RMS automatically configured - Line frequency: 47 to 63 hertz singe phase - Maximum power consumption: 50 watts maximum, not including monitor power ENVIRONMENTAL REQUIREMENTS - Operating temperature: 50 TO 104 degrees F (10 TO 40 C) - Storage temperature: -40 TO 116.6 degrees F - Relative humidity: 5% to 95% (non-condensing) - Altitude: 0 to 10,000 ft (0 to 3048 m) SAFETY AND EMI QUALIFICATIONS - FCC part 15 Class B Computing Devices - UL 1950 Information Technology Equipment - CSA (Canadian Standards Assn.) 950 Information Technology Equipment SIZE AND WEIGHT - Main Unit Height: 3.0 inches (7.7 cm) Width: 12.2 inches (31.0 cm) Depth: 15.0 inches (38.2 cm) Weight: 8.8 lbs. (4.0 kg) - Apple Keyboard (not included) Height: 1.8 inches (44.5 mm) Width: 16.5 inches (418.3 mm) Depth: 5.6 inches (142.0 mm) Weight: 2 lbs. 2 oz. (1 kg) - Apple Extended Keyboard (not included) Height: 2.3 inches (56.4 mm) Width: 19.1 inches (486 mm) Depth: 7.4 inches (188 mm) Weight: 3 lbs. 10 oz. (1.6 kg) - Apple Mouse (ADB) Height: 1.1 inches (2.8 cm) Width: 2.1 inches (5.3 cm) Depth: 3.8 inches (9.7 cm) Weight: 6 oz. (.17 kg)
MQUINN%UTCVM@PUCC.PRINCETON.EDU (11/10/90)
L .DEC.COM> >I odn't think there has been a press release just about the card... Actually, there is a spec sheet on the card. I had it at one time, but had to give it back to the guy that owned it (The local Apple dealer here in town). It was also posted here the day it was released. If you need it, I can try to get it back and post it to you. ______________________________________ | | | BITNET-- mquinn@utcvm | | pro-line-- mquinn@pro-gsplus.cts.com | |______________________________________|