macausla@newton.ccs.tuns.ca (Robert MacAusland) (10/16/90)
Well, the new Macs have been officially rolled out (hopefully they'll keep on going and fall off a cliff somewhere :-) and nary a word on the fate of my beloved GS. Actually thats not true, Apple's silence on the matter says more than any press release. I guess it's time to face reality: what we have now is all the support we're going to get - make due or buy an Amiga 3000. If anyone out there has good news, I'd like to hear it... all this talk about MacInsloths is making me nauseous (sp) -- /* Robert MacAusland -> macausla@newton.ccs.tuns.ca */
dlmartin@PacBell.COM (Dan Martinelli) (10/17/90)
In the San Francisco Chronicle article on the Big Mac roll out there was a small paragraph buried in the story stating: Apple will phase out its Apple II (does not say IIGS but only II) computer said Robert Puette (Apple USA President) in an interview before the introduction. Now please don't flame me, I am only quoting the local Business Section. Perhaps someone who gets the San Jose Mercury might have a more in-depth article. Dan Martinelli
johns@pro-library.cts.com (John Sparkman) (10/18/90)
In-Reply-To: message from macausla@newton.ccs.tuns.ca >Well, the new Macs have been officially rolled out (hopefully >they'll keep on going and fall off a cliff somewhere :-) and nary >a word on the fate of my beloved GS. Actually thats not true, Apple's >silence on the matter says more than any press release. I guess it's >time to face reality: what we have now is all the support we're going to >get - make due or buy an Amiga 3000. If anyone out there has good news, I'd >like to hear it... all this talk about MacInsloths is making me nauseous (sp) >/* Robert MacAusland -> macausla@newton.ccs.tuns.ca */ If you were financally in trouble, and had two automobiles, one old, and one new, and needed to get money right away, which one would you try and sell to accomplish this. No flame intended but, with the current situation of Apple financally, with the marketshare dropping, and needing to sell whatever bad decisions that they have made in producing and marketing there product to stay alive in this market, I can see why they are not spending money advertising the II line. Lets wait and see what the outcome is of their efforts, then if they succeed and still don't support the II line, we can preach gloom and doom. If they don't succeed in their efforts, the subject will be mute, gone, kapoot, dead. I would at least like them to stay afloat if nothing else but to be able to get replacement parts for the many dollars that I have invested in my gs, as others have in their selections of the II line. John ---- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| UUCP: crash!pro-library!johns | Pro-Library: 206/694-3276 | ProLine: johns@pro-library | 24hr 3/12/2400, register | ARPANet: crash!pro-library!johns@nosc.mil | Apple*Van, Apple Users Group| InterNet: johns@pro-library.cts.com | Vancouver, Washington | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Justin_Randall_Padawer@cup.portal.com (11/05/90)
Oh, I certainly do agree. Another reason why "the end is nigh" is because the Apple // series is terribly obsolete; the Macintosh is a tremendous personal computer for the times. Sooner or later, you'll go Mac. Randy Padawer :-) //bravery is best// Justin_Randall_Padawer@cup.portal.com
$CSD211@LSUVM.BITNET (Mark Orr) (11/05/90)
>Oh, I certainly do agree. Another reason why "the end is nigh" is >because the Apple // series is terribly obsolete; the Macintosh is >a tremendous personal computer for the times. Sooner or later, you'll >go Mac. Stop licking those toads!!! Let's see here...the PC is 9 yrs old, and the II is 12 1/2. What's the difference? What makes the II hardware obsolete, but the PC state-of-the art? Development and support, that's what. You realize that Apple has spent the better part of the '80 trying to get the II off their backs (starting with the Apple /// in '80 and continuing through the Mac LC in '90). Not only have they failed, 5 million II's were sold in that time. Now tell me this...with faster processors and better graphics, what could and Apple II NOT do????? The Mac is a tremendous personal computer for the times? The hell it is! Macs are universally overpriced and underpowered...and Apple can't fall back on that ease-of-use crutch anymore...not with Windows 3.0 (good enough for those brain damaged people who absolutely have to have a GUI). Amigas, PC's and NeXT's are all better buys than the Mac. Sooner or later I'll go Mac? BY THE LEFT FRONTAL LOBE OF THE SKY DEMON, I'LL DO NOTHING OF THE KIND!!!!!! (Sorry for the flame...but in the words of our beloved and trusted leader: "This aggression will not stand!") >Randy Padawer >:-) //bravery is best// >Justin_Randall_Padawer@cup.portal.com ---------------------------- Mark Orr ! $CSD211@LSUVM.SNCC.LSU.EDU ! ----------------------------
alfter@uns-helios.nevada.edu (SCOTT ALFTER) (11/07/90)
In article <35595@cup.portal.com> Justin_Randall_Padawer@cup.portal.com writes: >Oh, I certainly do agree. Another reason why "the end is nigh" is >because the Apple // series is terribly obsolete; the Macintosh is >a tremendous personal computer for the times. Sooner or later, you'll >go Mac. Umm...you might want to watch what you say around here, unless you wish for the full wrath of II users who read this newsgroup to fall on you. :-) Also, you might not want to dictate the future actions of comp.sys.apple2 readers. I, for one, have no intention to "go Mac" either now or in the future. I would have great difficulty getting burned by a company and still buying another of their products only to have to go through the same thing again in a few years. I see either the Amiga 3000 or NeXT in my future. (Sometimes in my less coherent moments I even think MeSsy-DOS would be a better fate than the Mac. :-) ) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Scott Alfter _/_ / v \ Apple II: Internet: alfter@uns-helios.nevada.edu ( ( the power to be your best! GEnie: S.ALFTER \_^_/
philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough) (11/10/90)
In article <35595@cup.portal.com> Justin_Randall_Padawer@cup.portal.com writes: >Oh, I certainly do agree. Another reason why "the end is nigh" is >because the Apple // series is terribly obsolete; the Macintosh is >a tremendous personal computer for the times. Sooner or later, you'll >go Mac. >Randy Padawer >:-) //bravery is best// >Justin_Randall_Padawer@cup.portal.com Really, what is the point of this type of message. The Mac is a nice micro, as is the GS and many others. You are perhaps overestimating the power of the Mac. I used to use them every day, and still have occasion to do some word processing of a technical nature on one. But the truth is I prefer using the GS as a terminal to work where I can take advantage of our computer system which can do the things I need. Personally, I find the GS more fun to use( and I have used Mac's since the +), but the lack of multitasking on the Mac and other OS related reasons forced me to move most of my work to a NeXT cube. The system will be complete in a few months in the sense of having all the software,etc... moved over, but I do not regret for a moment staying with the GS, adding a NeXT and selling 3 Mac's. Before you get on your technological horse again, perhaps you should keep in mind that there will always be a more powerful system around the corner. That is irrelevant if the system you use does what you want it to do. If it doesn't, then I suppose it's time to look at alternatives. However the attitude of upgrading just to keep up with the latest technology is foolish. Philip McDunnough University of Toronto->philip@utstat.toronto.edu [my opinions]