[comp.sys.apple2] Sick GS

shankar@SRC.Honeywell.COM (Subash Shankar) (11/05/90)

I recently had a problem with the GS, which I thought somebody on the net might
be able to identify (the problem no longer exists).

I turned on my GS and was greeted by a random checkerboard-ish pattern.  The
power light on the keyboard was on, but the power light on the TWGS remained
off.  Then, I took out the TWGS and put in the original 65816 (making sure that
it was tightly seated) - same problem as before.  So, I put the TWGS back in
and turned the system on again, and same problem.  This time, I pressed hard on
the TWGS pins going into the CPU socket (while the computer was on), and all of
a sudden the checkerboard turned color, and the system booted.  The problem no
longer exists. 

Any clues on what could be causing this, so I can take appropriate preventive
measures?  I don't expect it to have been caused by loose chips since I made
sure that all chips were seated well after the first boot.  The problem first
occurred on the first boot after a move, if it matters.  

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toddpw@nntp-server.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel) (11/05/90)

heh heh... you had the flip side of loose chips; you had a 'loose socket'.

two years ago, when I still had only my trusty ][+, I shipped it to college.
upon arrival, I observed a problem much like yours, except it was the
character ROM that was 'loose' and twisting it fixed things. In order to make
the fix permanent we had to take a small flathead precision screwdriver and
slowly work the socket off of the board so we could get at all the pins that
were part of the socket itself. we pushed each one out so it would press harder
against the chip and put the socket back over them. I haven't had the same
problem since.

be really careful if you try it yourself, it is really easy to toast a few of
the socket's pins if you are too forceful.

Todd Whitesel
toddpw @ tybalt.caltech.edu

zane@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Sameer Parekh) (11/09/90)

A similar occurence happened to me.  I installed my TWGS but I had trouble removeing
my 65816.  I booted up and I got the checkerboard pattern. (Sort of, It was
large blocks of white and black)  I replaced it with my 65816 and the same happened
I went to the dealer and they fixed it. (I assume they replaced the 65816, I
should have checked, it was under warranty so I didn't.  My error)

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bh1e+@andrew.cmu.edu (Brendan Gallagher Hoar) (11/12/90)

Actually, the checkerboard pattern went away after I put all my weight
on the chip...seems it just needed to be a little snugger...


Brendan G. Hoar
bh1e+@andrew.cmu.edu
Carnegie Mellon, Inc.