george@racsys.UUCP (George Rachor) (11/09/90)
I have had a GS on my desk for a while now and wouldn't think of giving it up. I find though that from time to time I need to work with a pc. Rather than setting up another desk I wouldn't mind setting the pc under my desk. When not in use I would store the keyboard on top of the pc. I run into problems with the monitor. Can a pc with an ega card successfully drive the applecolor RGB monitor? I would like to set up a switch to be able to select between the pc and the GS. Am I talking nonsense? (Yes I considered using a pc transporter but rejected this because it is too slow and I can only get cga). -- George Rachor Jr. Rachor Data Center, Beaverton, OR 97005 racsys!george@flight.hf.intel.com
$CSD211@LSUVM.BITNET (Mark Orr) (11/09/90)
>I have had a GS on my desk for a while now and wouldn't think of giving it up. > >I find though that from time to time I need to work with a pc. Rather than >setting up another desk I wouldn't mind setting the pc under my desk. When >not in use I would store the keyboard on top of the pc. > >I run into problems with the monitor. Can a pc with an ega card successfully >drive the applecolor RGB monitor? I would like to set up a switch to be able >to select between the pc and the GS. Am I talking nonsense? (Yes I considered >using a pc transporter but rejected this because it is too slow and I can >only get cga). >George Rachor Jr. >Rachor Data Center, Beaverton, OR 97005 >racsys!george@flight.hf.intel.com No, you can't use an AppleColor RGB monitor on a PC. Most if not all PC monitors are use digital (TTL) outputs while RGB outputs for apples use analog RGB. Other than that the connectors are physically different (DB-9's for PC's and DB-15's for Apples). However, some new PC monitors advertise "Macintosh compatibility" and should work with a IIgs. It would be better (cheaper) to get seperate monitors; as these analog/digital monitors (made by companies like NEC, Nanao, etc.) tend to be expensive (~$1000). Amazingly, it would be easier if you had a //e. Applied Engineering makes a dual analog/digital video interface (which works w/ PC monitors) for its Ramworks III card...but they make no such interface for the IIgs. ----------------------------- "You will die...you will die slowly... Mark Orr ! your stomach will swell...your intestines $CSD211@LSUVM.SNCC.LSU.EDU ! will writhe and boil...your eyes will burst @LSUVM.BITNET ! ...and some horrible stuff, possibly your ----------------------------- brains, will start coming out through your nose." - Apple's new marketing slogan for the II series.
toddpw@nntp-server.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel) (11/10/90)
Here's a more accurate explanation: the GS's RGB is hardwired to take video signals which are timing compatible with CGA. You are better off buying a cheap EGA monitor for the PC. If you bough a multisync/multifrequency monitor, then it is quite possible to switch both computers to it -- but it costs more than a cheap EGA. Todd Whitesel toddpw @ tybalt.caltech.edu
cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu (Charles William Swiger) (11/11/90)
The problem is that the Apple monitor uses analog RGB, while a EGA card produces digital (TTL) signals that require a digital RGB monitor. You could use your Apple monitor if you got a VGA card, I think. VGA produces analog signals like the //gs...better check and make sure the monitor will accept the sync frequency of the VGA card. (This is why the so called "multisync" monitors are around. They can handle a wide range of frequencies.) Getting VGA if it will work is almost certainly your best bet; you'll get better graphics for the pc without having to pay for another monitor or something like that. -- Charles William Swiger cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu
whitewolf@gnh-starport.cts.com (Tae Song) (11/16/90)
|I have had a GS on my desk for a while now and wouldn't think of giving it up. | |I find though that from time to time I need to work with a pc. Rather than |setting up another desk I wouldn't mind setting the pc under my desk. When |not in use I would store the keyboard on top of the pc. | |I run into problems with the monitor. Can a pc with an ega card successfully |drive the applecolor RGB monitor? I would like to set up a switch to be able |to select between the pc and the GS. Am I talking nonsense? (Yes I considered |using a pc transporter but rejected this because it is too slow and I can |only get cga). Not with Apples monitor... actually you can't really with any monitor that I ko know of... however, you can get a monitor that can handle both CGA and GS graphics. Magnavox has a model (CM8135, I think) has inputs for TTL/digital and Analog RGB as well as Svideo(SVHS) or composite... it's $250 through mail order $25 for custom cable to use with GS, and has a 14" screen. I'm planning on getting for myself... I also have a GS and IBM compatible with a monochrome monitor for both computers... this monitor will allow me to have color on both machines...