wilken@plains.NoDak.edu (Scott Wilken) (10/24/90)
Hello. I have a IIgs (and have had since 1987 I'm proud to say).
Every BBS that is local to me is run on an IBM and supports those pretty
little IBM graphics and color :)
Could someone Email me a place where a program which supports this
type of emulation could be had? I'd prefer shareware, but I'd also be
willing to look at something commercial.
Thank you..
Scott Wilken
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Bitnet: WILKEN@PLAINSbchurch@oucsace.cs.OHIOU.EDU (Bob Church) (10/24/90)
In article <6429@plains.NoDak.edu> wilken@plains.NoDak.edu (Scott Wilken) writes: > > Hello. I have a IIgs (and have had since 1987 I'm proud to say). >Every BBS that is local to me is run on an IBM and supports those pretty >little IBM graphics and color :) > I ANSI standard and VT100 different? I don't have anyplace to try it but had heard that they were actually the same. On the other hand, the person may have meant that vt100 was *becoming* the ansi standard or some such. bob church bchurch.oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu
SAB121@psuvm.psu.edu (10/24/90)
In article <2247@oucsace.cs.OHIOU.EDU>, bchurch@oucsace.cs.OHIOU.EDU (Bob Church) says: > >In article <6429@plains.NoDak.edu> wilken@plains.NoDak.edu (Scott Wilken) >writes: >> >> Hello. I have a IIgs (and have had since 1987 I'm proud to say). >>Every BBS that is local to me is run on an IBM and supports those pretty >>little IBM graphics and color :) >> >I ANSI standard and VT100 different? I don't have anyplace to try it but >had heard that they were actually the same. On the other hand, the person >may have meant that vt100 was *becoming* the ansi standard or some such. > I think he's talking about the ones that give all the flashing colors and the graphics that VT100 emulators (including snowterm so far) can not emulate. >bob church >bchurch.oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Salvatore A. Buttice | Bitnet: SAB121@PSUVM \_ Preferred | | RD#1 Box 488 | InterNet: sab121@psuvm.psu.edu / (It's Free!) | | Espyville, PA 16424 | Cleveland FreeNet: aj670 \_ If the above does | | Apple II ForEver!! | America Online: Sal15 / not work for you! |
jb10320@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Desdinova) (10/24/90)
In article <2247@oucsace.cs.OHIOU.EDU> bchurch@oucsace.cs.OHIOU.EDU (Bob Church) writes: >I ANSI standard and VT100 different? I don't have anyplace to try it but >had heard that they were actually the same. On the other hand, the person >may have meant that vt100 was *becoming* the ansi standard or some such. These days, ANSI and VT100 are technically synonymous. However, the ANSI found on IBMs and such is a mutant of true ANSI or VT100. IBM changed it to support the IBMs text display more cleanly. Thus, it's not true VT100. BUT... they're close enough that a color VT100 will work when calling an ANSI BBS, you just won't get the IBM graphics characters. >bob church >bchurch.oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu -- Jawaid Bazyar | Blondes in big black cars look better wearing Senior/Computer Engineering | their dark sunglasses at night. (unk. wierdo) jb10320@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu | The gin, the gin, glows in the Dark! Apple II Forever! | (B O'Cult) Comp.Sys.Apple2- Home of the Unofficial Apple II Developer Support Team (DST)
alfter@uns-helios.nevada.edu (SCOTT ALFTER) (10/25/90)
VT-100 is a subset of ANSI (formally known as ANSI X3.64-1979). ANSI, as
implemented by most MeSsy-DOS BBSes, includes the liberal use of "IBM
graphics" characters that cause funny things to appear on most other
computers, the Apple II included. I'm working on a terminal program that
ought to include most of the ANSI stuff. It will also let you pick either
double Hi-Res (for 8-bit IIs) or 640-mode super Hi-Res (for the GS) for your
display (SHR will offer color, which will probably be impossible for DHR).
A real ZMODEM that works (unlike the fake ZMODEM in ProTERM) will also be
a part of the system.
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In article <2247@oucsace.cs.OHIOU.EDU> bchurch@oucsace.cs.OHIOU.EDU (Bob Church) writes: >I ANSI standard and VT100 different? I don't have anyplace to try it but >had heard that they were actually the same. On the other hand, the person >may have meant that vt100 was *becoming* the ansi standard or some such. DEC's VT100 implemented a subset of ANS X3.64, plus some DEC-specific extensions allowed by X3.64. The so-called "ANSI graphics" supported by many IBM PC terminal emulators is not, so far as I know, specified by any actual ANSI standard.
6600prao@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Parik Rao) (10/25/90)
There is a IIe/c/gs program called A-gate (I
believe) that lets ya logon to the IBM BBS's and see
their pretty graphix. You can find it on any of the
3 online services, just search for AGATE ("acm" on
america online, a2 on GEnie, APPPROD on cis)dlyons@APPLE.COM (David A. Lyons) (10/26/90)
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Date: Thu, 25 Oct 90 12:36:53 SET
From: TE880714%STUDTEW.UFSIA.AC.BE@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
Organization: University of Antwerp - UFSIA - Faculteit TEW
Subject: Re: ANSI Terminal program
To: info-apple-request@APPLE.COM
I'm also extremely interested in such an ANSI-emulating com-program.
In my part of the world, there's nothing but those BBS's.
I'm seriously thinking of making my own BBS, but thusfar,
no responses from the US. I had some nice reviews on good programs,
but I'm not going to pay several hundreds of dollars for something I never
saw before. If someone in the States is interested in the first REAL
APPLE II BBS in Belgium, they can always contact me...
Reactions from fellow-europeans welcome.
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-----------------no refunds--no extra charges--no way--------------------------macausla@newton.ccs.tuns.ca (Robert MacAusland) (10/26/90)
Scott Alfter said: >A real ZMODEM that works (unlike the fake ZMODEM in ProTERM) will also be >a part of the system. > >----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Scott Alfter _/_ > / v \ Apple II: >Internet: alfter@uns-helios.nevada.edu ( ( the power to be your best! > GEnie: S.ALFTER \_^_/ A working version of Z-Modem would be worth a bundle to a lot of modem users in my opinion... when can you have it working Scott? Is tomorrow too soon? :-) -- /* Robert MacAusland -> macausla@newton.ccs.tuns.ca */
greg@hoss.unl.edu (Hammer T. H.) (10/26/90)
... 6600prao@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Parik Rao) writes: > There is a IIe/c/gs program called A-gate (I >believe) that lets ya logon to the IBM BBS's and see >their pretty graphix. You can find it on any of the >3 online services, just search for AGATE ("acm" on >america online, a2 on GEnie, APPPROD on cis) This program was posted to comp.binaries.apple2 once, but as far as I could tell it wouldn't run. Recently a working version appeared on a local system (to me). I'll see about getting it posted if there is enough interest. -- __ _____________ __ \ \_\ \__ __/ /_/ / "Is that really you, or is that a spacesuit and \greg@hoss.unl.edu/ you're inside somewhere, maybe just your brain in a \_\ \_\|_|/_/ /_/ little jar..." -- Stephanie Speck, _Short Circuit_
alfter@uns-helios.nevada.edu (SCOTT ALFTER) (10/26/90)
In article <90Oct25.193456edt.57643@ugw.utcs.utoronto.ca> macausla@newton.ccs.tuns.ca (Robert MacAusland) writes: >A working version of Z-Modem would be worth a bundle to a lot of >modem users in my opinion... when can you have it working Scott? Is tomorrow >too soon? :-) Well, I'm stuck in midterms right now--history toorrow morning, philosophy on Monday morning. :-( Even without those circumstances, though, there's still a bunch of other stuff to get written: polish up the modem driver, then write a display driver and a BIOS to tie the two together and allow the selection of different display drivers for different emulations. The BIOS will also tie in a file transfer protocol, so any type of transfer protocol will probably be the last thing written. Personally, I can't wait for me to get a working ZMODEM put together, either. I heard from someone, though, that Andy Nicholas is working on a ZMODEM for the II--only thing my program will do that his might not will be ANSI emulation, and who knows? He might even do that, now that someone's mentioned it. :-) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Scott Alfter _/_ / v \ Apple II: Internet: alfter@uns-helios.nevada.edu ( ( the power to be your best! GEnie: S.ALFTER \_^_/
MQUINN%UTCVM@PUCC.PRINCETON.EDU (10/26/90)
On Fri, 26 Oct 90 04:16:47 GMT Hammer T. H. said: >local system (to me). I'll see about getting it posted if there is >enough interest. Yeah! I've been looking for that for about six months now! > >-- > __ _____________ __ > \ \_\ \__ __/ /_/ / "Is that really you, or is that a spacesuit and > \greg@hoss.unl.edu/ you're inside somewhere, maybe just your brain in a > \_\ \_\|_|/_/ /_/ little jar..." -- Stephanie Speck, _Short Circuit_ ____________________________________________________________________ | | | | This is your brain... | BITNET-- mquinn@utcvm | | This is your brain on drugs... | pro-line: | | This is your brain on whole wheat.| mquinn@pro-gsplus.cts.com | |____________________________________|_______________________________|
THROOP@GRIN1.BITNET ("Throop,Henry B") (10/27/90)
[Scott Alfter about a term program everyone's waiting for] About a year ago, I seem to remember someone on c.s.a (Jawaid Bazyar, maybe?) talking about a 'telecommunications program of the gods' they were working on. Does anyone else remember this, or know if it's still coming? I personally don't like Proterm, but Kermit has some problems also (mainly downloading speed of the Kermit protocol). (Incidently, this is off the point, but I just got a thing from InSync today about ProTerm 2.2. If you're a member of a user group, send in your registration card and InSync will send you $15.) -- Henry Throop THROOP@GRIN1.BITNET throoph@jacobs.cs.orst.edu
marekp@pnet91.cts.com (Marek Pawlowski) (10/27/90)
ANSI an VT100 are different. Most people, referring to it "every day", will
mix the two up. They are, by far, different.
A program that will get you ANSI graphics, is called "Agate". It has been
posted to comp.binaries.apple2. It was a little hack by Tony Marques (a
fellow Canadian), which showed us that Apple's can do it too. We bboth admit
it's a lame terminal program. But for the graphics, it's FINE.
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/* Richmond Hill, Ontario, L4C 9M7, CANADA. */phs172m@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au (Stephen Harker) (10/27/90)
In article <2205@unsvax.NEVADA.EDU>, alfter@uns-helios.nevada.edu (SCOTT ALFTER) writes: [Stuff about time for programming] > I heard from someone, though, that Andy Nicholas > is working on a ZMODEM for the II--only thing my program will do that his > might not will be ANSI emulation, and who knows? He might even do that, now > that someone's mentioned it. :-) One request that I would like for any terminal emulation is the ability to emulate a tektronics graphics terminal (or something similar). On the PC Kermit we use at Monash University you can do this and get a (rough) plot on the screen of a fit to data, or a TeX preview. Such an ability, even though restricted to a 640 by 200 screen in some of our PC's, is quite critical. If such an emulation was available for the GS then it would improve the usefulness no end. A quick and dirty plot on the screen gives some idea whether the output is vaguely like the desired one! -- Stephen Harker Monash University
jb10320@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Desdinova) (10/27/90)
In article <9010261852.AA25771@apple.com> THROOP@GRIN1.BITNET ("Throop,Henry B") writes: >About a year ago, I seem to remember someone on c.s.a (Jawaid Bazyar, maybe?) >talking about a 'telecommunications program of the gods' they were working >on. Does anyone else remember this, or know if it's still coming? [...] >Henry Throop >THROOP@GRIN1.BITNET >throoph@jacobs.cs.orst.edu Hmm.. I seem to remember me saying something about this too... What do I have to say for myself, Jawaid? Um, well... Because of some really very poor design re: the IIgs serial firmware, I'm having to rewrite all modem i/o code. I have to go directly to the chip to handle baud rates over 4800 baud. I'm in the process of doing this right now, I don't know how long it will take since the SCC is so screwey. I'll be sure to let you all know as soon as that's done (BTW, this will also result in the long-awaited upgrade to my Modem Manager tool.) I'm glad someone remembers (Besides you, Dave!) this project... trust me, I haven't forgotten it. -- Jawaid Bazyar | Blondes in big black cars look better wearing Senior/Computer Engineering | their dark sunglasses at night. (unk. wierdo) jb10320@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu | The gin, the gin, glows in the Dark! Apple II Forever! | (B O'Cult) Comp.Sys.Apple2- Home of the Unofficial Apple II Developer Support Team (DST)
taob@pro-micol.cts.com (Brian Tao) (10/27/90)
In-Reply-To: message from 6600prao@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu
According to the sysop of a Vancouver BBS which Tony Marques frequented
(the author of Agate), the ANSI emulator was a one-time hack, and Tony
probably won't be updating it. I still have troubles getting it to work with
my GS and GVC 2400 modem. It doesn't run in colour either.
BT
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In <41@generic.UUCP> marekp@pnet91.cts.com (Marek Pawlowski) writes: >A program that will get you ANSI graphics, is called "Agate". It has been >posted to comp.binaries.apple2. It was a little hack by Tony Marques (a >fellow Canadian), which showed us that Apple's can do it too. We bboth admit >it's a lame terminal program. But for the graphics, it's FINE. The posting I received of it was a bit corrupted. I just recently got ahold of a working version and have reposted it to comp.binaries.apple2. >/* Marek Pawlowski, marekp@{generic|pnet91|contact|bkj386|torag|aunix}.uucp */ >/* President, Intelligent Twist Software, 250 Harding Blvd, PO BOX 32017 */ >/* Richmond Hill, Ontario, L4C 9M7, CANADA. */ -- __ _____________ __ \ \_\ \__ __/ /_/ / "Is that really you, or is that a spacesuit and \greg@hoss.unl.edu/ you're inside somewhere, maybe just your brain in a \_\ \_\|_|/_/ /_/ little jar..." -- Stephanie Speck, _Short Circuit_
MQUINN%UTCVM@PUCC.PRINCETON.EDU (10/29/90)
On Sat, 27 Oct 90 20:28:13 GMT Hammer T. H. said: > >The posting I received of it was a bit corrupted. I just recently got >ahold of a working version and have reposted it to comp.binaries.apple2. Could someone post this to Apple2-L? >-- > __ _____________ __ > \ \_\ \__ __/ /_/ / "Is that really you, or is that a spacesuit and > \greg@hoss.unl.edu/ you're inside somewhere, maybe just your brain in a > \_\ \_\|_|/_/ /_/ little jar..." -- Stephanie Speck, _Short Circuit_ ____________________________________________________________________ |CENSORED CENSORED CENSORED C | | |ED CENSORED CENSORED CENSORED CEN| BITNET-- mquinn@utcvm | |ENSORED CENSORED CENSORED CENSOR| pro-line: | |ORED CEBSORED CENSORED CENSORED C| mquinn@pro-gsplus.cts.com | |____________________________________|_______________________________|
cl114222@ulkyvx.BITNET (Snuggles) (11/02/90)
In some article greg@hoss.unl.edu (Hammer T. H.) writes: >... 6600prao@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Parik Rao) writes: >> There is a IIe/c/gs program called A-gate (I >>believe) that lets ya logon to the IBM BBS's and see >>their pretty graphix. You can find it on any of the >>3 online services, just search for AGATE ("acm" on >>america online, a2 on GEnie, APPPROD on cis) > >This program was posted to comp.binaries.apple2 once, but as far as I >could tell it wouldn't run. Recently a working version appeared on a >local system (to me). I'll see about getting it posted if there is >enough interest. I finally got a copy of AGATE yesterday! I've heard about it for a couple of months, but I couldn't find it anywhere. And yes, you're right, there are some severe problems with it, especially on the ][gs. But that can be expected for a program written without access to a ][gs. The problem lies in the CHARIN routine in the MI.GSPORT driver. It's not returning with the carry set when no character is available, so the program thinks there's always a new character awaiting and reads it in. Of course, it's a very easy problem to fix if you have the source code, but unfortunately I do not. I'll through a patch together later today (when I finally get out of class) and send it to America Online. There's also a problem with the copy buffer that is even easier to fix. It appears the author simply typed in a wrong lable name on one of his branches. No big deal. I'll include that fix in the patch as well. With these things working, this is a GREAT start for IBM ANSI graphics emulation. If anybody knows the author of this program or knows how to get ahold of him, let him know that we want him to continue work! I can't wait to get a full-fledged ANSI/Zmodem/everything else terminal for my ][gs (even if it doesn't support color, yet).... ThomasD
taob@pnet91.cts.com (Brian Tao) (11/03/90)
> If anybody knows the author of this program or knows how to get ahold of > him, let him know that we want him to continue work! I can't wait to get a > full-fledged ANSI/Zmodem/everything else terminal for my ][gs (even if it > doesn't support color, yet).... Tony Marques is the author of Agate. He lives wa-a-a-ay out in Terrence, BC, out on the west coast. I'm not sure of the exact city or address, but it's displayed in Agate somewhere. Last I heard, Tony wasn't going to do any more work on it, since he intended it only to be a one-shot deal. Maybe if he gets enough feedback and enthusiasm, he'll start working on it again. I can't get it running at all on my GS! I get to the terminal screen, and then nothing else works! I guess I'll be sticking to PSE for now... \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ | Brian T. Tao | UUCP: torag!pnet91!taob | / \ | University of Toronto | INET: taob@pnet91.cts.com | \ The Apple II / | Scarberia, ON | taob@pro-micol.cts.com | / Lives On!! \ |:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::| \ / | "Computer guru? Someone who got their computer a | /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ | couple of weeks before you did." (Alvin Toffler) |
kgreen@pro-angmar.UUCP (Kevin Green) (11/03/90)
In-Reply-To: message from cl114222@ulkyvx.BITNET Thomas Although it is still not a full-fledged term program, try using SnowTerm version 2.03. It uses the SHR screen to emulate a VT100 very well, has a nicely coded scroll buffer, etc. There is currently no protocol file transfers (just text) but it is promised for the future. In the letter I sent to John Snow today (paying my shareware fee!!!) I encouraged him to include XYZmodem support (including batch). I didn't mention ANSI but I bet it wouldn't be hard now that he has the VT100 emulation down.
marekp@pnet91.cts.com (Marek Pawlowski) (11/03/90)
Tony Marques has absolutely NO intention of continuing, or improving AGATE.
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/* Richmond Hill, Ontario, L4C 9M7, CANADA. */cl114222@ulkyvx.BITNET (Snuggles) (11/07/90)
In some article kgreen@pro-angmar.UUCP (Kevin Green) writes: >In-Reply-To: message from cl114222@ulkyvx.BITNET > >Thomas > Although it is still not a full-fledged term program, try using SnowTerm >version 2.03. It uses the SHR screen to emulate a VT100 very well, has a >nicely coded scroll buffer, etc. There is currently no protocol file transfers >(just text) but it is promised for the future. In the letter I sent to John >Snow today (paying my shareware fee!!!) I encouraged him to include XYZmodem >support (including batch). I didn't mention ANSI but I bet it wouldn't be hard >now that he has the VT100 emulation down. Ok, so I have gathered that Tony isn't going to do any more work on this program... That's ok, it's great anyway. I've uploaded the patch to make it work on the ][gs and to fix the copy buffer problem to America Online and I'd post it on the comp.binaries thing, but I can't figure out how to. Hopefully someone else will get it from America Online and post it here if anyone is interested. As for the Snowterm program... Yeah, that's a really nice program too. I'd like to see it working in its finished form as well (with ANSI), but right now I don't see a great advantage to it yet. With protocol transfers and ANSI graphics emulation, it'd problably quickly replace all of my terminals. ThomasD
penguin@gnh-igloo.cts.com (Mark Steiger) (11/11/90)
I have AGATE available on here for Download. If you call and leave me a note
telling me you saw it on here, I'll Que it to your mail box for the next time
ya call. :)
Mark Steiger
BTW, my BBS number is 218-262-3142 in case it ain't in the sig :)
[ Mark Steiger, Sysop, The Igloo 218/262-3142 300/1200/2400 baud]
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ARPA....:crash!gnh-igloo!penguin@nosc.milTHINGVOL@LAX.WISC.EDU (11/12/90)
I have AGATE but I can't seem to get it to work on my GS. Does anyone have it working on the GS? If so, how? Daniel Thingvold thingvol@lax.wisc.edu thingvol@uwlax.bitnet
taob@pnet91.cts.com (Brian Tao) (11/12/90)
From THINGVOL@LAX.WISC.EDU: > I have AGATE but I can't seem to get it to work on my GS. Does anyone have > it working on the GS? If so, how? I can't get it to recognize my modem. It manages to make it to the terminal screen, and I can change the fonts and baud rate, but anything I type isn't sent to the modem. I checked all the settings (GS serial port, 2400-bps, echo on, etc.), but to no avail. Is someone willing to pick up Agate to finish writing it? \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ | Brian T. Tao | UUCP: torag!pnet91!taob | / \ | University of Toronto | INET: taob@pnet91.cts.com | \ The Apple II / | Scarberia, ON | taob@pro-micol.cts.com | / Lives On!! \ |:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::| \ / | "Computer guru? Someone who got their computer a | /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ | couple of weeks before you did." (Alvin Toffler) |
avery@netcom.UUCP (Avery Colter) (11/21/90)
kgreen@pro-angmar.UUCP writes: > Although it is still not a full-fledged term program, try using SnowTerm > version 2.03. I paid my fee on this one too. It looked like something that has potential. Five months later... it STILL looks like something that has potential... but I haven't seen any upgrades from John. (I was going to write Mr. Snow, but that sounds to my ear like Stephen Snow, a reptilian lawyer trying to save Salve Regina college's ass from a discrimination ruling). I would still like to see the guy put some more power into this program. Maybe he should contact one of the more entrenched term-prog makers (like Applied Engineering or InSync), and see if they would be into putting their stuff into the Snow template. Until I see a lot more features in Snowterm, I'm sticking with ReadyLink. I really hope I see more from the guy, he looks like the only current hope for a GS/OS terminal program besides AWGS - and AWGS Communication leaves a lot to be desired, particularly on transfers; I haven't been able to get a reliable batch Ymodem download out of AWGS yet. -- Avery Ray Colter {apple|claris}!netcom!avery {decwrl|mips|sgi}!btr!elfcat (415) 839-4567 "I feel love has got to come on and I want it: Something big and lovely!" - The B-52s, "Channel Z"