[comp.sys.apple2] Apple Introduces HyperCard for the Apple IIgs

blob@Apple.COM (Brian Bechtel) (12/07/90)

MOVED OVER BUSINESS WIRE AT 8:30 AM, EDT, FRIDAY, DECEMBER 7, 1990.
 
For more information please contact:
Sandra Bateman
Apple Computer, Inc.
(408) 974-5460
 
APPLE INTRODUCES  HYPERCARD FOR THE APPLE IIGS
 
Long Beach, California -- December 7, 1990 -- Apple Computer, Inc.
introduced today HyperCard IIGS, a user-focused toolkit of information
management software for the Apple IIGS personal computer.  The new
product will allow Apple IIGS users to create their own custom software
and personalize the way they store, explore and present information.
The announcement was made at the AppleFest Conference and Exposition
being held today and tomorrow at the Long Beach Convention Center.

"We're very excited about HyperCard IIGS," said Ralph Russo, director
of the Apple II Business Unit at Apple.  "Because our Apple II
customers are extremely important to us, we continue to look for ways
to provide product enhancements that increase the value of their
investment in our technology.  We believe HyperCard IIGS does just
that".

Features and Benefits

Like the original HyperCard for the Macintosh personal computer,
HyperCard IIGS functions much like set of index cards.  Users store
information in documents called stacks, which are made up of individual
units called cards.  Cards can contain text, graphics, scanned images,
and even sound.  Buttons on the cards can be used to link cards and
stacks,  and much more.  HyperCard IIGS supports multiple media by
letting users work with information in virtually any form, including
text, graphics, video, sound and animation.  It also takes full
advantage of the advanced 16-color graphics capabilities of the Apple
IIGS.

To allow customers to begin immediately using the software, the program
comes with a large collection of ready-to-use stacks -- plus templates
and card designs to help individuals create their own stacks. The
program's scripting language, HyperTalk, provides buttons, cards,
stacks and utilities such as debugging tools to facilitate creation of
sophisticated programs and speed the preparation and performance of
user-designed HyperCard stacks.

With HyperCard IIGS, Apple IIGS customers have the full functionality
of Macintosh HyperCard version 1.2.5 -- plus specific enhancements to
improve performance and take advantage of the color capabilities built
into the Apple IIGS.  They can also enjoy the additional benefit of
accessing the many stacks that already exist for the Macintosh once
developers convert them for the Apple IIGS.

"Now Apple IIGS users and third-party developers can enjoy the same
power, graphic tools, text editing and scripting abilities that
Macintosh HyperCard users have had -- but with the added advantage of
color," said Tom Weishaar, editor of the A2-Central and board member of
the Apple II Developer Association.  "With HyperCard IIGS, Apple is
delivering in a big way on its promise to continue supporting the
installed base of Apple II customers and developers".

Configuration, Price and Availability

HyperCard IIGS will be sold only as a stand-alone kit, with six program
disks and three manuals.  Included will be nine ready-made stacks
(programs) for productivity, learning/games and inspirational/creative
applications.

To use HyperCard IIGS, customers will need an Apple IIGS with at least
1.5MB of RAM (2 MB are recommended), system software 5.0.4 or
subsequent version, one 800K disk drive and a hard disk drive or
connection to a network environment.  The program will be widely
available through authorized Apple dealers at a suggested retail price
of $99 in mid-February 1991.

-30-

Apple, the Apple Logo, Macintosh, IIGS, HyperCard, and  HyperTalk are
registered trademarks of Apple Computer, Inc.

END

fadden@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Andy McFadden) (12/08/90)

In article <47182@apple.Apple.COM> blob@Apple.COM (Brian Bechtel) writes:
>"We're very excited about HyperCard IIGS," said Ralph Russo, director
>of the Apple II Business Unit at Apple.  "Because our Apple II
>customers are extremely important to us, we continue to look for ways
>to provide product enhancements that increase the value of their
>investment in our technology.  We believe HyperCard IIGS does just
>that".

Incredible.

A high-ranking Apple executive spoke an entire *paragraph* about the
Apple II without using the words "commitment" or "empower."  I am impressed.

>                                             It also takes full
>advantage of the advanced 16-color graphics capabilities of the Apple
>IIGS.

Well, they couldn't get it *all* right.

Funny.  The original Apple II also had 16 color graphics... lo-res of
course...

>To use HyperCard IIGS, customers will need an Apple IIGS with at least
>1.5MB of RAM (2 MB are recommended), system software 5.0.4 or
>subsequent version, one 800K disk drive and a hard disk drive or
>connection to a network environment.

This is supposed to be a big win for schools?  How many schools with 1.128 meg
ROM 03 systems or 1.25 meg ROM 01 systems are going to go out and buy half a
meg of extended memory on a new card for $150 to get enough memory to run
this dinosaur?!?

Anybody in Apple Marketing know what a "White Elephant" is?

And, of course, no mention of a ProDOS FST.  But I guess I should just be happy
that Apple finally released this monster.

-- 
fadden@cory.berkeley.edu (Andy McFadden)
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unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (The Unknown User) (12/08/90)

In article <47182@apple.Apple.COM> blob@Apple.COM (Brian Bechtel) writes:
>MOVED OVER BUSINESS WIRE AT 8:30 AM, EDT, FRIDAY, DECEMBER 7, 1990.
>APPLE INTRODUCES  HYPERCARD FOR THE APPLE IIGS

	Maybe I should wait ~15 minutes, but I won't...

	Yesterday, December 7, 1990, a day which will live in infamy...
(I can just imagine the booooos and hisses...)   I will explain why
it's infamy and not in fame... (What's the opposite of infamy?!)
 
>Configuration, Price and Availability
>HyperCard IIGS will be sold only as a stand-alone kit, with six program
>disks and three manuals.  Included will be nine ready-made stacks
>(programs) for productivity, learning/games and inspirational/creative
>applications.
>To use HyperCard IIGS, customers will need an Apple IIGS with at least
>1.5MB of RAM (2 MB are recommended), system software 5.0.4 or
>subsequent version, one 800K disk drive and a hard disk drive or
>connection to a network environment.  The program will be widely
>available through authorized Apple dealers at a suggested retail price
>of $99 in mid-February 1991.

	I think that the idea of HyperCard GS is GREAT. When even
non Apple // magazines imply that the GS version of Hypercard is much
better than the Mac version (at lesat in an instance or two), that's a 
time to rejoice.. I'm referring to the most recent Vaporware column by
Murph Sewall which said Claris says the next version of Mac HyperCard
(which will be out next year) will --not-- support color, and the GS's
version DOES...

	But a couple of things are a hell of a damn shame....

	(1) It's NOT BEING given FREE with every GS sold from now on,
apparently. This is true with the Macintosh version and I would presume
that's a VERY big reason for it getting so big. Not that I even pretend
that lots of new GSes --are-- sold, but it would at least be a nice
"gesture" (not quite the right word).

	(2) It requires 1.5 megs of RAM and 2.0 are recommended. That
-SUCKS-.  Unless Apple now upgrades the GS to 1.5 or 2 megs on board,
that makes people not able to run HyperCard GS with a GS out of the box.

	Hey, I just thought about something. I was going to just mention
here how my college (residential college of UCSC) has about 6-8 GSes
that are used by education students to use educational software, from
what I've been told.. I tried to VOLUNTEER my own time in networking
all of these things and setting up any software/hardware or whatever else
necessary to network these with the Macs in the same room and to their
LaserWriter and Imagewriters... if only they'd get the free ROM upgrade
and buy some more RAM.  They said they thought my "proposal" was
interesting, but they couldn't do it...

	I just thought about sending the person I was talking to about it
another letter telling how useful HyperCard can be for education, and
being able to run HyperCard GS on those machines would possibly make
it worthwhile (for them) to upgrade them. I'd just basically rather use
the GSes and especially show off the awesome demos to people (the GSs
don't have enough RAM nor ROM 01 now)... Also, the program for the
GS, similar to NTSC Telnet for the Mac, that's being written, would be
fun to use.

	(3) Apparently no Mac FST. This would've been the -PERFECT- time
to release a Mac FST and advertize the hell out of it...(the FST I mean)
Now that means you have to have a Mac to do part of the converting (right?)
and copying it to a ProDOS disk with Apple File Exchange..



	God, enough rambling from someone who has gotten 3 hours of sleep
in the last 40 hours... (working on programs and a major hardware project
for another class).. and I -should- have only gotten either 0 or 1 hours
of sleep! (overslept! heh)
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scotth@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Scott Henderson) (12/09/90)

I had heard rumors that a stack had been developed to convert Mac Hypercard
stacks to GS Hypercard (provided that the stack did not contain any XCMD's).

I know that a program exists for the IBM (Convert It) to convert Hypercard
stacks to Toolbook stacks.  Is the Mac-GS version even at "vaporware" status?
Is it possible that the conversion will be on the developers version of 
Hypercard GS?  
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gwyn@smoke.brl.mil (Doug Gwyn) (12/09/90)

In article <9876@darkstar.ucsc.edu> unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (The Unknown User) writes:
>	(2) It requires 1.5 megs of RAM and 2.0 are recommended. That
>-SUCKS-.  Unless Apple now upgrades the GS to 1.5 or 2 megs on board,
>that makes people not able to run HyperCard GS with a GS out of the box.

Yeah, but since a full-featured HyperCard implementation is naturally
that big, what choice was there?
	(a) release HyperCard GS and require users to have enough RAM
	(b) don't release HyperCard GS
	(c) produce a "crippled" version of HyperCard GS that would
	hobble along, doing not much, in 1.125MB RAM machines
Since any serious use of the IIGS requires a large amount of RAM anyway,
alternative (a) seems reasonable enough to me.  Wishful thinking gets
you nowhere.

scottg@gnh-starport.cts.com (Scott Gentry) (12/11/90)

The Unknown User said this in a message that was posted earlier," 
        (2) It requires 1.5 megs of RAM and 2.0 are recommended. That
-SUCKS-.  Unless Apple now upgrades the GS to 1.5 or 2 megs on board,
that makes people not able to run HyperCard GS with a GS out of the box.
"

Welp, I've run it in 1.25 megs with NO DA's other than the control panel... No
prob (I'm not saying the final version will do the same, though).
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awillis@pro-angmar.UUCP (Albert Willis) (12/14/90)

In-Reply-To: message from scotth@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu

Right now, there is going to be one version of HyperCard IIgs. It'll cost $99.
Currently, there are _two_ stacks called HyperMover--one for the IIgs and one
for the Mac. Mac HyperMover decompiles a stack and IIgs HyperMover recompiles
the stack.

While IIgs HyperMover is on the latest developer CD "Night of the Living
Disk", Mac HyperMover is nowhere to be seen. Apple employees have said that it
will appear on the next developer CD; it'll also be on the CD that comes with
Apple's develop magazine. Probably a good time to subscribe.

BTW: The developer version of HyperCard 2.0 for the Mac will cost $199, so
lets not start complaining about price here. I understand that the
documentation for HyperCard IIgs is outstanding. So, it should be worth the
wait until mid-February.

Albert Willis
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stadler@Apple.COM (Andy Stadler) (12/15/90)

In article <11082.apple.net@pro-angmar> awillis@pro-angmar.UUCP
 (Albert Willis) writes:
>
>While IIgs HyperMover is on the latest developer CD "Night of the Living
>Disk", Mac HyperMover is nowhere to be seen. Apple employees have said that it
>will appear on the next developer CD; it'll also be on the CD that comes with
>Apple's develop magazine. Probably a good time to subscribe.

The reason?  Pure and simple - we made a mistake.  There is only one 
HyperMover - a single product consisting of two stacks - and in all the
effort to make the GS half available (it's in the ProDOS partition AND in a
disk image on the Mac side) we simply OOPS forgot to put the Mac stack in
there too.

It will be on the next CD, several DTS engineers have staked their reputations
on that!

--Andy      stadler@apple.com