kellogg@prodigal.psych.rochester.edu (Lars Kellogg-Stedman) (05/10/90)
I've got the chance to buy a vintage Apple III for a very low price, so I have
a few questions about it...
(1) Can it run Apple II software?
(2) What are the major differences between the Apple III and II?
(3) Can I simply plug my modem into the rs232 port and use it with a
comm program (see below)?
And, on a related subject, are there any decent comm. programs that will run
on the Apple III? vt100 emulation is a must. Zmodem would be nice...
PLEASE mail replies...
Lars
kellogg@prodigal.psych.rochester.eduJSDLG@ALASKA.BITNET ("Dixie Gustine") (11/10/90)
November 9, 1990
Dear Sir/Madam:
I just inherited an Apple III computer to use in my speech therapy classroom.
At this point, the computer teacher and I have several questions.
1. Is there any way that we can get a manual for the machine?
2. If we put in an 80 column card, will it be able to run an old version of
Appleworks (when the machine is emulating an Apple II)?
3. Is the machine capable of telecommunications? What kind of modem should
we install?
4. We took the machine apart yesterday and took out the internal disk drive
and put in the separate drive thinking that was the machine's problem.
Before re-assembling the machine, we booted the Apple II emulation program
and let it run. Instead of crashing in less than five minutes, it took
about 15 minutes for it to crash. The problem seems to be related to too
much internal heat. The CR7 light in the back starts to flicker causing
the disk drive light to flicker which crashes whatever is working. Is
this a power supply problem? Can we still get a new power supply for a
machine as old as this? Where could I get it? How much would it cost?
Considering the age of the machine and it's worth as a used computer, we are
unable to take it to the local dealer for repair. At $60/hour for labor plus
parts, it wouldn't take long to exceed the machine's worth.
I anticipate hearing from you soon. Thank you in advance for your assistance.
Sincerely,
Dixie Gustine, MS, CCC-SLP
Speech/Language Pathologist
Juneau Public Schools
907-586-3830
Email: jsdlg@alaska.bitnet$CSD211@LSUVM.BITNET (Mark Orr) (11/11/90)
>I just inherited an Apple III computer to use in my speech therapy classroom. >At this point, the computer teacher and I have several questions. > >1. Is there any way that we can get a manual for the machine? Yes. The best source for Apple III related hardware and support is the company that Apple sold the rights to the III to. Its' called Sun Remarketing (no relation to the SUN Workstation family). They send me replacement part catalogs all the time. They are located at: Sun Remarketing, Inc. P.O. Box 4059 Logan, Utah 84321 1-800-821-3221 Another group it would profit you to locate (if they still exits - I haven't heard from them in a while) is ON THREE (a group dedicated to the Apple ///). Their phone number is 312-338-2202. You should contact both these sources if you plan to continue to use your ///. >2. If we put in an 80 column card, will it be able to run an old version of > Appleworks (when the machine is emulating an Apple II)? No. You can't put an Apple II 80 column card in an Apple III. Not only won't it work, it probably won't fit. The Apple III has 80-columns built in but can only be used in native III mode. A two card set, the Titan III plus IIe, also sold Sun Remarketing, will give the III all the capabilities of an Apple IIe, w/128k RAM (including 80 columns) this would be your best bet. This should allow you to run Appleworks. It would be a good idea to get this card. >3. Is the machine capable of telecommunications? What kind of modem should > we install? Yes. Any serial modem should work in a III through the built in serial port. Most telecommunications programs should recognize it...but I'd use ASCII Express...That's the one I use, and I know it supports the III. >4. We took the machine apart yesterday and took out the internal disk drive > and put in the separate drive thinking that was the machine's problem. > Before re-assembling the machine, we booted the Apple II emulation program > and let it run. Instead of crashing in less than five minutes, it took > about 15 minutes for it to crash. The problem seems to be related to too > much internal heat. The CR7 light in the back starts to flicker causing > the disk drive light to flicker which crashes whatever is working. Is > this a power supply problem? Can we still get a new power supply for a > machine as old as this? Where could I get it? How much would it cost? Sun Remarketing sells replacement motherboards, drives, power supplies, keyboards, etc. According to my last Sun catalog, an Apple /// power supply will cost you $100 ($50 of which will be given back when you return your old part). >Dixie Gustine, MS, CCC-SLP >Speech/Language Pathologist >Juneau Public Schools >907-586-3830 > >Email: jsdlg@alaska.bitnet ---------------------------- Mark Orr ! $CSD211@LSUVM.SNCC.LSU.EDU ! ----------------------------
gstovall@brchh165.BNR.CA (Greg Stovall) (12/22/90)
I just inherited a number of AppleIII computers (yes, they still work), but much of the application software was lost before I received the hardware. Does anyone know of a source of software and hardware for these things? I don't intend to spend a great deal of money, because I just want to get them working for word processing and home budgeting for my and my wife's parents. Does anyone know where to locate descriptions of the ports (pinouts, usages, etc. ?) I've got an AppleII compatibility disk for the AppleIII, but the AppleIIe software I've tried does not work. Does it only work with old Apple software, or am I missing something? Thanks for any help you might be able to provide. Please post, because you probably can't email in to me... Gregory T. Stovall gstovall@brchh165.BNR.CA Richardson, Texas, USA (214) 907-7009
warlock@pro-harvest.cts.com (Jamie Coe) (12/23/90)
The emulation disk for the Apple II only emulates the 48k II+. The software
you are looking for is Three Easy Pieces, the predecessor of Appleworks. Try
calling Digital Data Express 708/389-7744. Hope this helps, Gregory.
Jamie Coe de Proline: crash!warlock@pro-harvest
de Palnet: ddsw1!vpnet!palnet!warlock
ST6934@SIUCVMB.BITNET (12/23/90)
Another resource to try is a company that I believe support Apple III's. Info may be obtained by writing or calling: On Three, Inc. 206 334 8001 1802 Mitchell Road Lake Stevens, WA 98258 Courtesy of Jawaid Basyar(sp?) from a previous post. Andy Werner ST6934@SIUCVMB