ez001793@dino.ucdavis.edu (12/25/90)
I heard that the new sys disk (5.04) was at apple.com so I checked. Turns out
that the people put it in .hqx format, which is BinHex. On the offchance they
merely named it wrong, I ftp'd it, and took a look, and the header clearly
states this file must be done with binhex 4.0
This being the case, I have some questions:
1] Is there Binhex for teh AppleII GS?
2] Is there Binhex for Unix?
3] Why did they use Binhex and not ShrinkIt, which they (Apple) themselves
have right there in one of their directories. Which reminds me, the
shrinkit at apple.com, I think, is version 2.1, since the file says
shirnkit2.1. Who ever is in charge of apple.com, maybe an update
to 3.03 would be appropriate, along with GsShrinkIt.
4] Does this mean ftp.apple.com is still not set up?
5] For those of us who do not have ftp-access (I do though) would it be
illegal for me to get sys504 from the ftp site, and email it to them
(yeah...it's large, but that's not the point right now)
6] I assume it is illegal to put up sys504 on comp.binaries.apple2, even
though it is on an ftp site.
7] Will any other ftp site carry the sys disk?
I took the two text files (release notes.) Sounds nice - be nice if I
understod more of what's there though (I am not a programmer, I'm a user).
Paul Hirose
pthirose@ucdavis.eduphilip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough) (12/27/90)
In article <9756@aggie.ucdavis.edu> pthirose@ucdavis.edu (Paul Hirose) writes:
[stuff re 5.0.4 being in binhex format on Apple.Com,etc...]
It's not enough to deal with the binhexed file. You then have to unshrink
it AND there is one further step, of which I am not aware. The 2 files you
end up with are in some strange format. There is therefore one further step.
Having binhex, unsit,...isn't enough.
Philip McDunnough
University of TorontoEWINGRA@CTRVX1.VANDERBILT.EDU ("IN%"INFO-APPLE@APPLE.COM" 19-DE") (12/27/90)
Regarding System 5.0.4 in Binhex 4.0 format on apple.com: Obviously, whatever nice soul put the release on the Apple Vax did it from a Mac and goofed since Apple II users don't use Binhex. A polite request to apple.com might get a change, otherwise, find a friend with a Mac, use Apple File Exchange to get the file over, use Stuffit or Binhex 4 to decode the file, and then reconvert it. Since I'll be downloading with a Mac, this isn't an issue for me, but for those of you who aren't, the problem isn't insurmountable. Binhex 4 is a completely 7 bit ASCII format, used by our sister Info-Mac community to transmit Mac files around the Internet without fracture. Its alot like Binscii. --Rick Ewing Vanderbilt University
AABENSON@MTUS5.BITNET (01/06/91)
Alright! Enough! Whoever's been saying to find a friend with a Mac and all that stuff, just to get a IIgs system disk, should suggest a different idea. Maybe it would be a good idea if we all just emailed somebody at Apple, and requested (in a very nice, well-manered way, of course) that they put it up again, but in ShrinkIt format! :-)
dcw@lcs.mit.edu (David C. Whitney) (01/07/91)
In article <91005.221621AABENSON@MTUS5.BITNET> AABENSON@MTUS5.BITNET writes: >Maybe it would be a good idea if we all just emailed somebody at Apple, and >requested (in a very nice, well-manered way, of course) that they put it up >again, but in ShrinkIt format! :-) Too late, I already did (last week). Talked to Mark Johnson (the ftp site manager) and asked why oh why were the system disks posted in that format. He said he wanted them available ASAP, and would repost them in a more friendly format when he had time. Please remember that he does this on his own time, so don't crawl down his back if he can't find the time before 10am today... -- Dave Whitney Computer Science MIT 1990 | I wrote Z-Link and BinSCII. Send me bug dcw@lcs.mit.edu dcw@mit.edu | reports. I still need a job. Send me offers. "The price of freedom is eternal vigilance" --Binky (aka Matt Groening)