[comp.sys.apple2] Is 5.04 different then 5.03

jamesp@pro-grouch.cts.com (James Pangrazzi) (01/09/91)

:A friend of mine piked up system disk 5.04 from Sun computers
yesterday. Since
:we had gotten a bogus system disk & tools, 5.04, before he
checked it out a
:little more closely this time. He found everything to be the
same as 5.03.
:even though the disk had the APPLE label on it marked 5.04. The
things that he
:checked were the system number and date. The files that are
listed when you
:hold the space bar down upon booting and every system file
size, creation
:date, and modified date. All showed to be identical to 5.03.
Has anybody else
:done any comparison and if so can you post your results
please?? Thank you in
:advance.

UUCP: crash!pro-grouch!jamesp
ARPA: crash!pro-grouch!jamesp@nosc.mil

ifar355@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (David H. Huang) (01/10/91)

In article <9155.apple.net2@pro-grouch> jamesp@pro-grouch.cts.com (James Pangrazzi) writes:
|:A friend of mine piked up system disk 5.04 from Sun computers
|yesterday. Since
|:we had gotten a bogus system disk & tools, 5.04, before he
|checked it out a
|:little more closely this time. He found everything to be the
|same as 5.03.
|:even though the disk had the APPLE label on it marked 5.04. The
|things that he
|:checked were the system number and date. The files that are
|listed when you
|:hold the space bar down upon booting and every system file
|size, creation
|:date, and modified date. All showed to be identical to 5.03.
|Has anybody else
|:done any comparison and if so can you post your results
|please?? Thank you in
|:advance.
|
|UUCP: crash!pro-grouch!jamesp
|ARPA: crash!pro-grouch!jamesp@nosc.mil

The GS/OS itself is exactly the same (as far as I can tell). However, there
are new ImageWriter drivers and a couple (2?) updated tools.

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platkus@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Shawn W Platkus) (01/10/91)

        The system 5.0.4 is locate on apple.com under pub/dts/aii/sys-soft
and it also includes two text files that tell the differences between 
5.0.4, 5.0.3, and 5.0.2.  
        The only thing I don't understand is why is the sys software is packed
in hqx format?  I don't know of anything on the GS that can handle it.
So, I downloaded it on a Mac and unpacked it.  It resulted in a file packed
in sit format.  The file was a dImg.  I converted this file to the GS, and 
used Shrinkit GS to unpack the sit file.  Well, it just produced a file 
that was unusable.  
        The bottom line is, does anyone know how to get that sys disk
from apple.com to unpack to a GS usable disk ???

                        Please help!

                        Platkus

mail suggestions to platkus.
or post then here

unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (The Unknown User) (01/10/91)

In article <1991Jan9.213723.2799@en.ecn.purdue.edu> platkus@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Shawn W Platkus) writes:
>        The only thing I don't understand is why is the sys software is packed
>in hqx format?  I don't know of anything on the GS that can handle it.

	You must not have been reading this newsgroup lately..
There have been explanations of wh it was posted like this... The guy
that posted it just did it this way to get it online ASAP.. I think
that's a reasonable reason why...
>        The bottom line is, does anyone know how to get that sys disk
>from apple.com to unpack to a GS usable disk ???

	This has all been explained too... You can get mcvert to convert it
from .hqx on UNIX... works like a charm..

		Then un-StuffIt the file with ShrinkIT GS.  Then un-dImg it
with the special program written for this purpose (but might be useful in
the future) by one of the regulars on here.. Todd P Whisell?! Jawaid?! I 
forget...
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schiffer@stsci.EDU (Skip Schiffer) (01/10/91)

Just a quick note to say that the files on Apple.com can be processed
on the Macintosh to yield II GS disks without using the II GS at all.
(I do not have a hard disk on my II GS which makes it impractical to
create the files on it. :-()  You can use Stuffit 1.5.1 to convert 
the .hqx file into a .sit file, and then use it to unpack the .sit
into the dlmg file.  (sorry about mixing identifications.)  
The dlmg file can be copied to a disk using (on a Macintosh) using
the DiskCopy (I used version 4.1).  The entire process is quite slick.
Note that DiskCopy is available from Apple.com (I believe it is in the
DTS Macintosh system software area).  You will need Stuffit 1.5.1 to
convert and unpack DiskCopy.

One reason I am posting this information is not all of us use Unix 
systems to perform their FTP copies.  I generally do all the FTP
copies directly from my Macintosh as the transfer rates are superier.

To all those for whom this information was a waste of time I apologize.
			Skip

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