zane@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Sameer Parekh) (09/20/90)
I've been pissed at A+/InCider and I just got my LAST ISSUE! YEAH!
(It's got that RENEW TODAY cover on it) I feel like counting the ads.
Out of 99 (Including inside front cover, inside back cover, and back cover)
pages there are many ads. I will summarize and then detail:
Total Pages: 99 _
Total ads: 54.05 (Approx.)
Ad percentage: 54.60% (Approx.)
Not-Ad percentage 45.40% (Approx.)
(Not-Ad does NOT mean article because there are also table of contents,
bulkhead, etc.)
This is very interesting info. . .
And now for the details. . .(In order of appearance)
You can figure the approximate percentage of total magazine from the # of
pages. That is the value.
Pages Percentage (Approx.)
of ad pages
(26 advertisers total)
Laser 1 1.8%
Softdisk 1 1.8%
Quality/Q Labs 5 9.2%
Sensible Software 1/3 0.6%
CDA 2 3.6%
Price Busters 2/3 1.2%
Programs+ 7 12.9%
AE 6 11.0%
Tulin 1/4 0.5%
Abracadata 1/4 0.5%
PDE 1/2 0.9%
Roger Coats 2 3.6%
Creative Pursuits 1/3 0.6%
Educational Resources 1 1.8%
GEnie 2 3.6%
Supra 1 1.8%
LRO Sales 1/3 0.6%
TimeWorks 1 1.8%
Golem 2 3.6%
Preferred Computing 1 1.8%
CompuServe 1 1.8%
Fas-Track 2/3 1.2%
IDG Special 1 1.8%
Scholastic 1 1.8%
Chinook 1 1.8%
Alltech 4/9 0.8%
USA Micro 4/9 0.8%
Silicon Express 2/3 1.2%
NBS 2/3 1.2%
Echo 1/3 0.6%
MacInker 1/3 0.6%
SDA 1 1.8%
Ribbon Land 1/3 0.6%
Advertiser Index 2/3 1.2%
(Does this one count? I didn't include it in the totals)
InCider 1 1.8%
New Concepts 1/2 0.9%
Memory Plus 1 1.8%
Broderbund 1 1.8%
Market Place 4 7.4%
Classifieds 2 3.6%
Orange Cherry 1 1.8%
Kensington 1 1.8%
I had assumed the AE number would be greater but that is still a large number.
If AE decided not to advertise in there for one or more issues, there goes 11
percent of the ad revenue.
But a 55.6% number was OUTRAGOUS. The newstand price is $3.95 plus tax is
$4.21. So I am paying $2.30 for the ADS! (Well I subscribed so it is less, but
still . . .) How much is computer shopper? $4-5? and it has about 8-9 times
the ads! Why don't I just buy that!? That is HELL! I'm mad because there are
no good Apple II mags out there. If there were I would not be mad, I'd just
tell people not to subscribe to A+/InCider. (If there IS, tell me please)
(I've been really pissed in this article. Sorry If I OfFeNd SoMeOnE)
--
Sameer Parekh :-) | Disclaimer: I do not work for anyone.
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\______/ | -Lisa Simpson, "Krusty Gets Busted"MQUINN@UTCVM.BITNET (09/20/90)
>I am mad because there are no good Apple II mags out there [one line deleted] >(If there IS tell me please) GS+ is a GREAT magazine... The last issue had 45 pages... 4 pages were adds. 2 of which were adds for the magazine (ordering info. and back issue info). This is a GS specific magazine though; no prodos 8 stuff. By the way, the Graphics articles are GREAT! :) ok, I admit it, I work for the magazine.. guess what I do?-------^ ____________________________________________________________________ | | | | This is your brain... | BITNET-- mquinn@utcvm | | This is your brain on drugs... | pro-line: | | This is your brain on whole wheat.| mquinn@pro-gsplus.cts.com | |____________________________________|_______________________________|
MQUINN@UTCVM.BITNET (09/20/90)
Sorry! I brought up GS+ magazine, but I didn't give ANY information on how to order. GS+ Magazine Post Office Box 15366 Chattanooga, TN 37415-0366 Phone: (615) 870-4960 I also forgot to mention, it's a magazine PLUS disk deal (you dan't have to get the disk if you don't want it). Be sure to check out the next issue. It's the 1st anniversary issue. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | | This is your brain... | BITNET-- mquinn@utcvm | | This is your brain on drugs... | pro-line: | | This is your brain on whole wheat.| mquinn@pro-gsplus.cts.com | |____________________________________|_______________________________|
daveharv@pro-novapple.cts.com (Dave Harvey) (09/21/90)
In-Reply-To: message from MQUINN@UTCVM.BITNET > > GS+ is a GREAT magazine... The last issue had 45 pages... 4 pages were adds. > 2 of which were adds for the magazine (ordering info. and back issue info). > This is a GS specific magazine though; no prodos 8 stuff. By the way, the > Graphics articles are GREAT! :) ok, I admit it, I work for the magazine.. > guess what I do?-------^ > It is if you can manage to get a copy! They're still having problems with their delivery system that they have to straighten out. I've talked to a number of subscribers who've had less than satisfactory experience with their subscriptions. They still have to get that part of their act together and find an alternate means of delivering copies to subscribers. proline: pro-novapple!daveharv | uucp: crash!pnet01!pro-novapple!daveharv | Pro-novapple BBS arpa: crash!pnet01!pro-novapple!daveharv@nosc.mil | 300/1200/2400/9600 Baud Internet: daveharv@pro-novapple.cts.com | 703-671-0416 | Northern Virginia Apple Users Group | P.O. Box 8211, Falls Church, VA 22041 |
JWANKERL@UTCVM.BITNET ("Josef W. Wankerl") (09/23/90)
On Fri, 21 Sep 90 09:17:39 EDT Dave Harvey said: >In-Reply-To: message from MQUINN@UTCVM.BITNET >It is if you can manage to get a copy! They're still having problems with >their delivery system that they have to straighten out. I've talked to a >number of subscribers who've had less than satisfactory experience with their >subscriptions. They still have to get that part of their act together and >find an alternate means of delivering copies to subscribers. Find an alternate means, eh? Shall I drive it to your doorstep personally? Sorry to sound so obnoxious, but what can you do after you drop the bundle off at the post office? The answer is nothing. If the PO decides to not deliver some copies, what can I do? It's true that some people *still* haven't received a copy of the last issue, but if they write in or call another copy will be sent out. I'm not exactly sure of the details for sending out copies to those who were unfortunate enough to be a victim of the post office, but please contact GS+ about it! GS+ is, IMHO, the best Apple II magazine around... but I may be a bit biased. :-) >proline: pro-novapple!daveharv | >uucp: crash!pnet01!pro-novapple!daveharv | Pro-novapple BBS >arpa: crash!pnet01!pro-novapple!daveharv@nosc.mil | 300/1200/2400/9600 Baud >Internet: daveharv@pro-novapple.cts.com | 703-671-0416 > | >Northern Virginia Apple Users Group | >P.O. Box 8211, Falls Church, VA 22041 | -- ===> Josef W. Wankerl, college student | "I am a Viking" -Y. Malmsteen ProLine: jwankerl@pro-gsplus | BITNET: JWANKERL@UTCVM InterNet: jwankerl@pro-gsplus.cts.com | UUCP: ...crash!pro-gsplus!jwankerl ARPA/DDN: ...crash!pro-gsplus!jwankerl@nosc.mil | I'm employed by EGO, GS+!
MQUINN@UTCVM.BITNET (09/23/90)
>It is if you can manage to get a copy! They're still having problems with >their delivery system that they may have to straighten out. hmmmm. I wasn't aware of this (I believe you though). I do know of one time not very long ago (last issue, if I'm not mistaken) that the Chattanooga post office lost almost EVERY SINGLE COPY... They all went out at one time. This one incident wasn't GS+'s fault though, but I don't know about any other times. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | | This is your brain... | BITNET-- mquinn@utcvm | | This is your brain on drugs... | pro-line: | | This is your brain on whole wheat.| mquinn@pro-gsplus.cts.com | |____________________________________|_______________________________|
lexter@pro-abilink.cts.com (Sam Robertson) (09/25/90)
In-Reply-To: message from JWANKERL@UTCVM.BITNET
I am interested in the magazine GS+ (?). If you could send me some info, I
would be very appreciative.
Thanks!]
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"An Apple a day, keeps the Big Blue Meanies away!"MQUINN@UTCVM.BITNET (09/25/90)
GS+ Magazine Post office Box 15366 Chattanooga, TN 37415-0366 or phone (615) 870-4960 ____________________________________________________________________ | | | | This is your brain... | BITNET-- mquinn@utcvm | | This is your brain on drugs... | pro-line: | | This is your brain on whole wheat.| mquinn@pro-gsplus.cts.com | |____________________________________|_______________________________|
gwyn@smoke.brl.mil (Doug Gwyn) (01/18/91)
In article <9101171308.AA21116@apple.com> lwv27@CAS.BITNET writes: >There was NOTHING negative said about RamFast,and little bad said about >the other two. Yet , they were all described as being equal. It is >hard to understand equal when the RamFast is so much faster! Like most magazines that depend heavily on advertising revenues, they are hesitant to pan a product in a product review, unless it is so clearly bad that even the manufacturer would have to agree with the negative evaluation. In fact I find that the choice between Apple's High-Speed SCSI card and the RamFast SCSI card depends very much on factors that may very well differ among potential users of such a product. Apple's card is (at present, anyway) better supported by GS/OS and better supports a wide range of SCSI peripherals; it also has a nice I/O chaining mode that can be exploited for certain applications. On the other hand, the RamFast card's caching gives much better disk throughput when using 8-bit applications. Different users may find different factors to be decisive. (I chose Apple's card; it's certainly fast enough for my purposes.)