giovin@ecs.umass.edu (01/25/91)
In article <14957@smoke.brl.mil>, gwyn@smoke.brl.mil (Doug Gwyn) writes: >> In article <9101231720.AA18200@apple.com> EWINGRA@CTRVX1.VANDERBILT.EDU (Rick Ewing) writes: >>>BTW, how can you pirate *hardware*??? >> > Easy, you borrow a friend's card and run it through your matter duplicator. Actually, a friend of mine who worked as a service guy at an Apple dealer used to copy chips he needed with what I think he said was an "EPROM burner." So, if you're handy, you could "copy" someone's card.
giovin@ecs.umass.edu (01/25/91)
In article <43151@ut-emx.uucp>, daveh@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (David H. Huang) writes: > In article <12183.279f6f30@ecs.umass.edu> giovin@ecs.umass.edu writes: >>In article <14957@smoke.brl.mil>, gwyn@smoke.brl.mil (Doug Gwyn) writes: >>>> In article <9101231720.AA18200@apple.com> EWINGRA@CTRVX1.VANDERBILT.EDU (Rick Ewing) writes: >>>>>BTW, how can you pirate *hardware*??? >> >>> Easy, you borrow a friend's card and run it through your matter duplicator. >> >>Actually, a friend of mine who worked as a service guy at an Apple >>dealer used to copy chips he needed with what I think he said was an >>"EPROM burner." So, if you're handy, you could "copy" someone's >>card. > > Ah, but that only copies EPROMS. You would have to go buy a PCB, draw little > traces on it, etch it, drill holes into it, buy your resistors/chips/capacitors > and all that other stuff and solder them in... It's not very easy to do it > that way. You can copy nintendo cartriges though :-) Actually, that's what I meant when I wrote, "... if you're handy..." Those resistors, capacitors, etc. could probably be easily obtained.
daveh@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (David H. Huang) (01/25/91)
In article <12183.279f6f30@ecs.umass.edu> giovin@ecs.umass.edu writes: >In article <14957@smoke.brl.mil>, gwyn@smoke.brl.mil (Doug Gwyn) writes: >>> In article <9101231720.AA18200@apple.com> EWINGRA@CTRVX1.VANDERBILT.EDU (Rick Ewing) writes: >>>>BTW, how can you pirate *hardware*??? >>> > >> Easy, you borrow a friend's card and run it through your matter duplicator. > >Actually, a friend of mine who worked as a service guy at an Apple >dealer used to copy chips he needed with what I think he said was an >"EPROM burner." So, if you're handy, you could "copy" someone's >card. Ah, but that only copies EPROMS. You would have to go buy a PCB, draw little traces on it, etch it, drill holes into it, buy your resistors/chips/capacitors and all that other stuff and solder them in... It's not very easy to do it that way. You can copy nintendo cartriges though :-) BTW... my email address has changed It's now daveh@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu -- David Huang | Internet: ifar355@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu | "My ganglion is stuck in UUCP: ...!ut-emx!ccwf.cc.utexas.edu!ifar355 | a piece of chewing gum!" America Online: DrWho29 |
khorster@pro-graphics.cts.com (Karl Horster) (01/27/91)
In-Reply-To: message from giovin@ecs.umass.edu
You have any idea how hard that would be, and the special equipment
you need? My brother back in the early 80's made a computerized drill press
for his college project in engineering. Burning EPROM's are not fun, but if
this guy has EEPROM it would be a lot easier...daveh@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (David H. Huang) (01/30/91)
In article <12199.27a04b8b@ecs.umass.edu> giovin@ecs.umass.edu writes: =In article <43151@ut-emx.uucp>, daveh@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (David H. Huang) writes: => In article <12183.279f6f30@ecs.umass.edu> giovin@ecs.umass.edu writes: =>>In article <14957@smoke.brl.mil>, gwyn@smoke.brl.mil (Doug Gwyn) writes: =>>>> In article <9101231720.AA18200@apple.com> EWINGRA@CTRVX1.VANDERBILT.EDU (Rick Ewing) writes: =>>>>>BTW, how can you pirate *hardware*??? =>>> Easy, you borrow a friend's card and run it through your matter duplicator. => => Ah, but that only copies EPROMS. You would have to go buy a PCB, draw little => traces on it, etch it, drill holes into it, buy your resistors/chips/capacitors => and all that other stuff and solder them in... It's not very easy to do it => that way. You can copy nintendo cartriges though :-) = =Actually, that's what I meant when I wrote, "... if you're handy..." =Those resistors, capacitors, etc. could probably be easily obtained. Those traces would be pretty hard to draw/photograph or whatever. I like the matter duplicator idea better :-)
giovin@ecs.umass.edu (02/01/91)
- In article <43432@ut-emx.uucp>, daveh@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (David H. Huang) writes: ] In article <12199.27a04b8b@ecs.umass.edu> giovin@ecs.umass.edu writes: $ In article <43151@ut-emx.uucp>, daveh@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (David H. Huang) writes: ] In article <12183.279f6f30@ecs.umass.edu> giovin@ecs.umass.edu writes: = In article <14957@smoke.brl.mil>, gwyn@smoke.brl.mil (Doug Gwyn) writes: > In article <9101231720.AA18200@apple.com> EWINGRA@CTRVX1.VANDERBILT.EDU (Rick Ewing) writes: -------------------------------------- > BTW, how can you pirate *hardware*??? = Easy, you borrow a friend's card and run it through your matter duplicator. $ Ah, but that only copies EPROMS. You would have to go buy a PCB, draw little $ traces on it, etch it, drill holes into it, buy your resistors/chips/capacitors $ and all that other stuff and solder them in... It's not very easy to do it $ that way. You can copy nintendo cartriges though :-) ] Actually, that's what I meant when I wrote, "... if you're handy..." ] Those resistors, capacitors, etc. could probably be easily obtained. - Those traces would be pretty hard to draw/photograph or whatever. I like the - matter duplicator idea better :-) OK! OK! So it would be really tough to pirate anything "worthwhile," I just remember that he did things with chips a lot and that's what he told me. --> i.e. He made copies of lowercase chips back when the II+ was the latest Apple, and used to modify display chips so that instead of booting with "APPLE ][," his computer would display his name. He probably never made his own boards for the expansion slots. Rocky