[comp.sys.apple2] AW and Text files

sehrlich@lynx.northeastern.edu (01/23/91)

Question:  I know Appleworks can save files in Text format, but can
it retrieve text files, too?

Thanks.

Scott

AGRDEN@lure.latrobe.edu.au (01/24/91)

In article <memo.698011@lynx.northeastern.edu>, sehrlich@lynx.northeastern.edu writes:
> Question:  I know Appleworks can save files in Text format, but can
> it retrieve text files, too?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Scott

Look at the Main Menu   Add Files to the Desktop 

Try TEXT file under Word Processor 

Hope this is of help

toddpw@nntp-server.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel) (02/18/91)

sehrlich@lynx.northeastern.edu writes:
>Question:  I know Appleworks can save files in Text format, but can
>it retrieve text files, too?

I know 3.0 can, under add new WP. Not sure about earlier versions though.

Todd Whitesel
toddpw @ tybalt.caltech.edu

daveh@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (David H. Huang) (02/19/91)

In article <1991Feb18.140814.5998@nntp-server.caltech.edu> toddpw@nntp-server.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel) writes:
>sehrlich@lynx.northeastern.edu writes:
>>Question:  I know Appleworks can save files in Text format, but can
>>it retrieve text files, too?
>
>I know 3.0 can, under add new WP. Not sure about earlier versions though.

2.x can too, also under add new WP. I'm pretty sure all versions can
import text files, since it's a very common thing that one needs to
do.



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bill@braille.uwo.ca (W.B. Carss (519) 438-0344) (02/19/91)

In article <1991Feb18.140814.5998@nntp-server.caltech.edu> toddpw@nntp-server.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel) writes:
>sehrlich@lynx.northeastern.edu writes:
>>Question:  I know Appleworks can save files in Text format, but can
>>it retrieve text files, too?
>
>I know 3.0 can, under add new WP. Not sure about earlier versions though.

APW 2.x can both retrieve and save text files.  It is possible to set a printer
to save text files as either "formatted" or "unformatted".  Unfortunately,
APW 2.x imposes its own formatting on files which you bring to the desktop i.e.
the margin settings, and it is necessary to re-adjust them.  In addition, (and I
don't know about APW 3.0), APW 2.x exchanges # for any and all control characters
in the file, with the exception of the carriage return.  That is why it is 
necessary to run prospective imports through some kind of filter program to 
change LF's to CR's.

I wish there was some way to permenantly change the default margins in APW 2.x
to 0's all around.  This would greatly decrease the likelyhood that a given
file will be "too large" for the desktop when you import it.  I have had
that problem several times even though I have more than a meg of space on my
desktop.  Unfortunately, APW doesn't allow me to devote the entire meg to a 
single file.

Just as a little footnote, I am reluctant to "step up" to APW 3.0 because I 
have a rather extensive collection of TimeOut add-ons that provide essentially
everything that 3.0 offers without the apparent printing restricxtions that
APW 3.0 has.  I was told that it only supported ImageWriters.  Is there any 
truth to that rumor?

hackett@obelix.gaul.csd.uwo.ca (MICHAEL HACKETT) (02/19/91)

>Just as a little footnote, I am reluctant to "step up" to APW 3.0 because I 
>have a rather extensive collection of TimeOut add-ons that provide essentially
>everything that 3.0 offers without the apparent printing restricxtions that
>APW 3.0 has.  I was told that it only supported ImageWriters.  Is there any 
>truth to that rumor?

    Definitely not, I still use my old Gemini 10X with AW 3.0 (I would
suggest that you use AW instead APW to refer to AppleWorks - many of us
programmers relate APW with the Apple Programmers' Workshop).  In fact,
there are several printing enhancements, such as the ability to define 6
custom codes that you can use for whatever you want.  For example, I use on
of them to turn on the French character set for printing my friend's French
essays that she sometimes does on my computer.


    Mike Hackett

tomk@pro-grouch.cts.com (Tom Kelly) (02/20/91)

In-Reply-To: message from bill@braille.uwo.ca

TimeOut add-ons can be updated to work w/AWK 3.0 for FREE by Beagle Buddies at    Applepple User
Groups.     
The only requirement is that you bring the original disk.
Pirate copies do NOT qualify!!

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josh@osf.org (Joshua Goldman) (02/21/91)

In article <44353@ut-emx.uucp>, daveh@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (David H.
Huang) writes:
|> In article <1991Feb18.140814.5998@nntp-server.caltech.edu>
toddpw@nntp-server.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel) writes:
|> >sehrlich@lynx.northeastern.edu writes:
|> >>Question:  I know Appleworks can save files in Text format, but can
|> >>it retrieve text files, too?
|> >
|> >I know 3.0 can, under add new WP. Not sure about earlier versions though.
|> 
|> 2.x can too, also under add new WP. I'm pretty sure all versions can
|> import text files, since it's a very common thing that one needs to
|> do.
|> 
|> -- 
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|> Internet: daveh@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu          | "Slight accidents with
funny rays
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consequences"
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Well I have Appleworks 1.0 and it can retrieve text files, BUT you have
to remember that when you go from an AW word proc. file to text file you
lose some formatting information (bold, margins, etc).  It also may add
line breaks at the end of the page.  When you read it back in to AW, it
will not be identical to the file that you started with.  I assume that
the newer versions of AW "retrieve" text files in the same way.  This is
different from saving a file with markups indicating formatting and then
retrieving it.

Joshua Goldman josh@osf.org (617)-621-8857
Open Software Foundation
11 Cambridge Center
Cambridge, MA 02142

wilner@motcid.UUCP (Corey S. Wilner) (02/22/91)

bill@braille.uwo.ca (W.B. Carss (519) 438-0344) writes:

>Just as a little footnote, I am reluctant to "step up" to APW 3.0 because I 
>have a rather extensive collection of TimeOut add-ons that provide essentially
>everything that 3.0 offers without the apparent printing restricxtions that
>APW 3.0 has.  I was told that it only supported ImageWriters.  Is there any 
>truth to that rumor?

Not really, you can ADD your own printers to the menu but you cannot remove
the ImageWriter entry.  It must be left in.

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jpenne@ee.ualberta.ca (Jerry Penner) (02/22/91)

In article <4477@mint17.UUCP> wilner@motcid.UUCP (Corey S. Wilner) writes:

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>Not really, you can ADD your own printers to the menu but you cannot remove
>the ImageWriter entry.  It must be left in.
>
>Corey S. Wilner    |                            |   __o

No.  You can remove the Imagewriter entry.  I only have the Epson
and a custom printer setup in my AW 3.0.

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GRAY@ADMIN.HumberC.ON.CA (Kelly Gray) (02/24/91)

Appleworks 3.0 can handle any printer you care to name. There are a
number of printer types defined in the setup menu, or you can define
your own.
 There is a serious bug in AW3.0 though. If you remove the default
printer from the list of defined printers, the program will bomb. This
one of a number of known serious bugs to Appleworks 3.0. There are a
 couple of solutions to the problem though. First, there is a Freeware
patch from Beagle Bros. that will fix those bugs. I'm not sure if the
patch is available via FTP, but it is available on Genie, and on a
local BBS here in Toronto.
 There is also the Appleworks 3.0 Companion from Beagle Bros. This
program fixes all the known bugs in AW3.0, and also allows you to
customize a number of the menus and prompts within Appleworks. I
purchased my copy of Appleworks 3.0 Companion through A2-Central for
$39.95. It should be available through any dealer that handles Beagle
products.

As for Appleworks reading text files, EVERY version of Appleworks I
have used, including Appleworks 1.0 has had that capability. It's
under the create a new file for the word processor. Simply select
'from a text (ascii) file' and give Appleworks the pathname.

There are some things to watch out for if you are moving files from
AW 3.0 to 2.X. Appleworks 3.0 creates files that are compatible with
earlier versions of Appleworks until you use one of the new features.
Once you have used a new feature in an Appleworks 3.0 file, that file
is no longer compatible with earlier versions of Appleworks, even if
you later delete the feature you used! (be real careful of the tab key
if compatibility is important!)

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mmunz@pro-beagle.cts.com (Mark Munz) (02/28/91)

In-Reply-To: message from wilner@motcid.UUCP


>Not really, you can ADD your own printers to the menu but you cannot
remove
>the ImageWriter entry.  It must be left in.

This ain't true if you're using the Patcher that I wrote. It fixes the
ImageWriter delete bug along with some 8 other known problems with 
AppleWorks 3.0.

btw.. the AW 3.0 Companion also has these patches (plus about 70 other 
patches for your AW 3.0 -- including setting defaults in the WP).

Mark Munz